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NATIONAL ASSEMBLY HANSARD 17 MARCH 2016 VOL 42 NO 36

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PARLIAMENT OF ZIMBABWE

Thursday, 17th March, 2016

The National Assembly met at a Quarter-past Two O’clock p.m.

PRAYERS

(THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER in the Chair)

MOTION

PRESIDENTIAL SPEECH: DEBATE ON ADDRESS

          First Order read: Adjourned debate on motion in reply to the Presidential Speech.

          Question again proposed.

          Hon. Gonese having stood up.

          THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: I can see you are up.

          HON. GONESE: I want to move a motion.

          THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: On what, the Clerk has already read the First Order of the Day.

          HON. GONESE: Thank you Madam Speaker, I am seeking the indulgence of all Hon. Members of this august House to stand over Orders of the Day, Number one to ….

          THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order, Hon Member, the Chief Whip was here and you were also here, we did not agree with what you want to do. So, could you please resume your seat?

          HON. GONESE: But I am entitled to move a motion. The Standing Rules allow me to move a motion.

          THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon. Member, you only want to hear what the Clerk says. Order, Hon. Members!

          HON. CHIKOMBA: Thank you Madam Speaker for affording me this opportunity to contribute to the debate on the address by His Excellency, the President on the occasion of the Official Opening of the Third Session of the Eighth Parliament.

          The address by His Excellency at the opening of every Session of Parliament is not just a symbolic gesture or a mere political ritual, but constitutes a significant milestone in the formulation of the business of the House. It is the legislative guideline which sets the agenda for what Parliament must consider core business. I am glad the President’s speech outlined a series of pertinent issues which this House must consider. Most importantly, in line with the need to attract investment and grow the economy, the President alluded to the need to undertake a number of legislative reforms which have in the past stifled convenient business transactions. The proposed Zimbabwe Investment Authority Amendment Bill is a welcome measure to make investment easy and convenient.

          Madam Speaker, the State Procurement Amendment Bill was long overdue considering the rampant corruption and abuse of tender procedures which was rampant in most State enterprises resulting in the abuse of Government resources. The Special Economic Zones Bill is in line with the proposals made by His Excellency during the State of the Nation Address in the Ten Point Plan to grow the economy which emphasised export growth and investment attraction – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections] –

          THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order, order! Hon. Mutseyami, can the Member be heard in silence please.

          HON. CHIKOMBA: Madam Speaker Maám, considering the pivotal role that the mining sector plays to our economy, the proposal by His Excellency to table a Bill to transform the Mineral Marketing Cooperation of Zimbabwe into a fully-fledged mineral exploration company is a progressive initiative towards mineral value addition and beneficiation.

          Another important item which was put on the legislative agenda is the need to create a comprehensive framework of land governance in the post land reform era, through the establishment of the Land Commission as envisioned by Section 296 of the Constitution. Farm sizes have to be ascertained and multiple farm ownership has to be stopped. This creates the imperative for a land audit to ensure that there is order in all the acquired agricultural lands. In this regard, the Land Commission Bill is a very important Bill which will bring efficiency in agricultural production.

          The President also alluded to the Labour Bill which was passed by this august House to stop what had become rampant firing of employees by many organisations. We welcome the indications by His Excellency, that Government stands ready to take on board the concerns of social partners in further amendments of the Labour Act.

          The President indicated that the Consumer Protection Bill would be tabled during this Session in order to promote consumer rights and fair business competition and marketing. This is most welcome since for a long time consumers have been at the mercy of unscrupulous business people whose only focus is on making profits.

          For a long time, the infrastructure at border posts have been a cause for concern. This is especially so for Beitbridge border post which is the busiest in terms of volumes of people and goods. It is against this background that we welcome the pronouncement by His Excellency that the National Border Ports Authority Bill will be introduced in order to improve the infrastructure at the country’s borders.

          His Excellency, the President had no kind words for those in our midst who continue to make it their hobby to abuse the girl child through rape and related crimes. Our communities are no longer safe for the girl child because of rapists.

          THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon. Member, if I call for order you have to sit down, you cannot keep on standing. Now you can proceed with your speech.

          HON. CHIKOMBA: Our communities are no longer safe for the girl child because of rapists who continue to roam and prowl on our streets and neighbourhoods. We therefore welcome indications that the law will be reviewed with the aim of imposing mandatory sentences against the perpetrators of this crime.

          Madam Speaker, other aspects of His Excellency’s Address which are equally pertinent include the need to rationalise on the Indigenisation Act to make it more clearer, the importance of health care provision which will be catered for in the Public Health Bill, the problem of corruption which calls for the need for a National Code of Corporate Governance Bill and the National Security Council Amendment Bill.

          Medical Aid Societies have for a long time acted as a law unto themselves without being accountable to anybody. This has led to cases of poor corporate governance in most of these medical aid societies. We have had cases where the management at these institutions has been raking in obscene salaries every month when subscribers could not access the much needed medical care. We therefore, welcome the indications by His Excellency, that a Regulatory Authority for Medical Aid Societies will be enacted to provide the much needed guidance in their operations.

          I would also want to take this opportunity to urge the Government to seriously consider establishing irrigation schemes in Gokwe-Kabuyuni Constituency because of persistent drought. This will go a long way in improving the livelihoods of people in the constituency. I would also want to thank traditional leaders and councilors in the constituency who have been very helpful in implementing development projects.

          In conclusion, we must be united despite our political differences to embrace the opportunity to work together and support the initiative to grow the economy as laid out by His Excellency. The issues confronting this country needs us all to believe in one thing and work out to build through collective action. I thank you.

          HON. MATUKE: Madam Speaker, I move that the debate do now adjourn.

          HON. GONESE: I second.

          Motion put and agreed to.

          Debate to resume: Tuesday, 5th April, 2016.

MOTION

BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

          HON. GONESE: Thank you Madam Speaker. I move that Orders of the Day, Number 2 to 20, be stood over and I will explain the reasons...

          THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: No, just move.

          HON. GONESE: No, I need to explain. I am entitled to moving a motion and I will briefly explain...

          THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order Hon. Member, you just move then we proceed with the process.

          HON. GONESE: No, I am entitled to just briefly articulate the reasons. Madam Speaker, this is the month to commemorate International Women’s Day and this is a time bound motion. What I am explaining is that we have got women in this august House and all of us are affected by issues relating to women. It is either we have got wives, mothers, daughters and sisters. I am just appealing to all Hon. Members to bear with me so that we just have a discussion and debate on that motion. That is all I am asking for from the Hon. Members and I am seeking their indulgence and their concurrence.

          HON. CHAMISA: I second.

          Motion put and negatived.

          THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order, Hon. Munengami. Let us have order.

MOTION

STATE OF THE NATION ADDRESS BY HIS EXCELLENCY, THE PRESIDENT

     Second Order read: Adjourned debate on motion in reply to the State of the Nation Address by His Excellency, the President of Zimbabwe.

     Question again proposed.

     THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order, order.

     HON. MUDEREDZWA: Thank you Madam Speaker. First of all, I would like to thank Hon. Mhlanga for introducing this motion to the House. I would also like to thank all those Hon. Members who debated the motion. I would like to thank His Excellency, the President of the Republic of Zimbabwe for coming to this House to raise the ten point plan, which is directed towards moving the Republic of Zimbabwe forward.

     I realise that the President of the Republic of Zimbabwe, Cde. R. G. Mugabe thought deeply to come up with this ten point plan. I noted also that the Ten Point Plan dovetails very well with the United Nations Development Agenda that touches on the Sustainable Development Goals, more especially to do with development goal number 1, which is intended to end poverty throughout the world, development goal number 2, which is intended to end hunger throughout the world and development goal number 3, which is intended to ensure that healthy lives take place across the world.

I am not going to deliberate much on the development goals, but I am going to touch much on the Ten Point Plan. Out of the points that were raised by the President, I would like to touch on point number 3 which is focusing on infrastructural development particularly in the key areas - energy, water, transport and ICT subsectors. Madam Speaker, these points are coming from ZIM ASSET, more to do with food security and nutrition and also infrastructure and utilities.

I want to deliberate on the aspect of infrastructural development, starting with the energy sector. I am appealing to the responsible Minister to…

THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order, Hon. Mafunga. Order Honourable, can you please go back to where you are coming from.

HON. MUDEREDZWA: Madam Speaker, I was saying I am appealing to the responsible Ministers to respond to the Presidential Ten Point Plan, more especially in the area of energy provision. I am appealing to the Minister to address this aspect through the Rural Electrification Agency (REA), so that we develop rural areas.

Since the attainment of independence, the rural areas have been lagging behind and we would like to see developmental programmes addressing the rural areas. After all, it is people in the rural areas who bore the brunt of the liberation war. These people should be recognised today and tomorrow because these are the people who liberated this country and we would like to see the essential services being directed towards them. Right now, there are areas in the rural areas, more especially in areas like my constituency, where there is no electricity. People are moving from the rural areas to urban areas and we would like to stop the rural to urban migration.

Hon. Japoon having passed between the Chair and the Hon. Member speaking.

THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order Hon. Japoon. Hon. Members, how many times do I have to tell you?

HON. MUDEREDZWA: I was saying Government should be directed towards stopping rural-urban migration by creating job opportunities in the rural areas. If electrification is done in the rural areas, we will see a lot of projects and a lot of activities taking place in the rural areas such that people will not be willing to come to town.

Madam Speaker, I would also want to touch on the aspect of transport, more to do with rural roads.

Hon. Nhema having passed between the Chair and the Hon. Member speaking.

THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order, Hon. Nhema. I think experienced Hon. Members still do not understand the procedures of the House. Resume you debate, Hon. Member.

HON. MUDEREDZWA: Thank you Madam Speaker. I was deliberating on the need for the Government to address the aspect of roads in the rural areas. I was saying, it is important for the Government to realise that people in the rural areas need to be attended to more than people in urban areas. Why am I saying so? Developmental programmes have been directed towards urban centres… - [Laughter] –

An Hon. Member having passed between the Chair and the Hon. Member speaking.

THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order, order.

HON. MUDEREDZWA: I was saying the Minister of Transport should address issues to do with developing roads in the rural areas. I am saying so because we have seen that, in terms of development, rural areas are lagging behind and our Constitution, the Constitution of Zimbabwe, in terms of Section 13(1) (d), emphasises the aspect of balancing development programmes between urban and rural areas. We are saying, through ZIM ASSET, through the Ten Point Plan, the responsible authorities in the respective Ministries should ensure that energies are directed to the rural areas.

As I speak, Madam Speaker, when we came to this august House we were anxious to see the Murambinda - Birchenough road upgraded, but nothing has happened so far. If you happen to go through that road right now, it is not passable. We are saying that there are many other roads of similar nature across the country and we are saying the Government should address developmental programmes in the rural areas. People in the rural areas have been patient over the years and they have remained consistent, supporting Government programmes. Why is it that we are not paying attention to them?

So, Madam Speaker, the most important aspect that I would like to touch on is point number 3, that touches on infrastructure and utilities. I am happy that the Ministry of Water, Climate and Environment has done a lot as so far, we have seen that they are drilling boreholes through a contract with the Chinese and our people are very happy that we are having safe water to drink. This is what the other Ministries should do. We should ensure that the direction of Government developmental programmes should be looking at the rural areas.

I would also like to touch on the aspect of ensuring that there is solar energy in the rural areas. In the areas where we live it is very hot, but there is no initiative that is coming to ensure that people enjoy solar energy. We would like to see this initiative. We hear it being talked about, but we have never seen it coming to the rural areas. We would like to see people in areas where they are carrying out irrigation being supported by solar energy. Madam Speaker, the other aspect I would like to talk about is pursuing the anti-corruption thrust. His Excellency the President talked about…

HON. MLILO: On a point of order, Madam Speaker. Hon. Mutseyami is busy conversing on his mobile phone, something which is not permissible in this House.

THE HON. DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon. Members we do not allow members to attend to their cell phones in this House. Hon. Mutseyami can we see the phone. I think for now, I can excuse you, but next time, I am sending you out because of that phone.

HON. MUDEREDZWA: Madam Speaker Ma’am, I was talking about the Presidential Plan Number 9, which relates to pursuing anti-corruption thrust or activities. I am happy Madam Speaker Ma’am that the Anti-Corruption Commission has been established. We would like to see this nation fighting corruption. In fact, apart from the illegal sanctions, one of the most important enemies of Zimbabwe right now is corruption. There is corruption everywhere and we would like to see the Anti-Corruption Commission overcoming the challenges which it is facing. As Members of Parliament, let us work towards exposing corruption.

Madam Speaker Ma’am, without fighting corruption, this country is not going to move forward. There are responsible ministers who have been tasked to look into these respective areas, we want to see them taking action towards combating corruption. There are challenges in each and every Government department and we would like to see the Anti-Corruption Commission extending its tentacles in those areas. They should deal with people who are committing corruption everywhere. We would like to see the courts dealing with these issues.

We have talked a lot about corruption in this country but nothing is happening and this is the issue that was raised by the President to say, let us fight corruption. When he says that, he is talking to me and everyone else, including this Anti-Corruption Commission that was established.

Madam Speaker Ma’am, I thought it is important for me to make a contribution in this regard. I am not going to debate on all the ten points, but I have noted that each point is pointing to a certain ministry. It is pointing to certain responsible authorities who should take action. The President has done his part and we would like to see ministers taking action in this regard. Of course, we agree that people perform differently, we have seen ministers who perform highly and others who move in the team and not taking the lead.

We are saying, through the Ten-Point Plan, we should be able to transform the economy of this country so that we are at a higher level. Madam Speaker Ma’am, I would like to conclude by thanking the President of the Republic of Zimbabwe for giving direction to this nation by saying; in order for us to grow, this is the direction we should take. I thank you.

*HON. MURAI: Thank you Madam Speaker. I stood up to add my voice to the debate on the State of the Nation Address. Before I delve into the matter, I want to introduce myself. I am one of the Members of Parliament who was chosen by the President from Highfield East Constituency – [HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear] – On that note Madam Speaker, I feel ecstatic that our President, the leader of this country, who delivered this speech, is my President and also one of my residents – [HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear] –   This means that all the challenges of the President come through me as his representative – [HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear] –

On the State of the Nation Address, the President talked about the road network. As the Member of Parliament for Highfield, I made sure that the roads which pass through the President’s house have been repaired – [HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear] – I want to thank this Parliament Hon. Speaker because I came with a proposal on service delivery system that we should provide the people of Highfield with clean water and the Speaker allowed me. We sank about 23 boreholes and one of the boreholes was sunk close to the President’s house and he is not facing any challenges when it comes to water – [HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear] –

Madam Speaker, our challenge is on employment. The people of Highfield are saying, as a constituency where the President hails from and I as the Member of Parliament and a councilor, the constituency should be different in terms of rates of employment. They always ask whether I meet the President and exchange notes about unemployment – [HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear] – so Madam Speaker, I will plead with you that in the forthcoming shortest period, the meeting that I am going to be holding with the President – [HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear] – I think he will attend so that we discuss this and give the people feedback on the promises we have given them before elections.

Madam Speaker, allow me to speak about the mines in terms of our minerals. I attended a seminar presided over by Prophet Makandiwa. He said that when God blessed this world, people were blessed with land. In Europe they are also blessed but in Africa they are blessed with land. He said that even if European land is poor, they are rich but in Africa, particularly in Zimbabwe, we are rich in terms of land but the people remain poor.

We have vast claims of minerals but we are still very poor. What it means is that we are not able to utilise the wealth that we have.

Still on that, I want to touch on corruption because I want to give you an example of Chiadzwa.

At Chiadzwa or other mines, the communities are not benefiting from the minerals. Diamond was being mined and people were chased away. Two days later, we were told that 15 billion dollars was missing. This means that for example in this House, if people know that we have defrauded the organisation, they chase us and when they come back they say we are missing our belonging. Those who are involved in chasing the thieves are part and parcel of the activities. In Shona we say, ukatsvodana nembavha, unofanira kuverenga mazino ako mbavha isati yaenda. We suspect foul when it comes to issues like these.

US$15 billion is a lot of money. I calculated it against the Zimbabwean population. We are about 14 million and if we were to share that amount, each one of us would get US$1 154.84. Those who are polygamists would come up with at least US$50 000. A family with about five members can come up with US$6 000. We are saying that it is prudent that this issue be investigated so that we cannot say that US$15 billion just disappeared. People are seeing and listening to what is happening in our nation and they need our confidence -[HON. MEMBERS: Laughter]-.

Before I came to Parliament, there was an Anti-Corruption Commission which had started well but in their pursuit of thieves, they were getting too big people and it ended up with them facing prosecution.

In this august House, we have some people who own houses that are better than the hotels we stay in and we are missing US$15 billion. All of us know how much we earn but if we see the wealth that others have accumulated, that is when you suspect people.

One does not have to look very far but it is just to take people for prosecution because some of the candidates are the ones who are busy laughing while I am serious here.

On agriculture, it is like a song now that our economy is agro-based. That is just on paper but when it comes to implementation, even if we look at the budget that was presented by the Minister of Finance – what was expected was US$1.7 billion in the agriculture sector. Less than US$600 000 was allocated to agricultural activities whilst some sectors like Foreign Affairs and Defence got the allocation equivalent to that which was bided for by the Ministry of Agriculture. It now looks like our economy is defence based. We should sit down and review on our activities.   Thank you Madam President.

*HON. MUTSEYAMI: Thank you Madam Speaker for according me this opportunity. I would like to debate about the State of the Nation Address. I have debated on the Presidential Speech already.

I will touch on a few things because I addressed some in the Presidential Speech. I will speak about the ten point plan which was alluded to by the President. For a country to go forward, there should be harmony within the Government. We should have organised workers.

In the President’s office, I do not know whether they forget or it is deliberate or it is because they are belittling the President. With all the employees in the President’s office; they gave him a wrong speech to deliver. On the same note, the same employees facilitate that the President goes to India to attend a councillors meeting. How can the ten point plan work in our country if they take our President to attend a headmen’s meeting. That really pains me. Even the people in Musikavanhu are not happy that the President is heading to the wrong destination.

If people who work in Government behave like this, it means that our ten point plan will not yield anything. For it to yield results, people should work together in Government, in unity and harmony. How can the ten point plan work if the Ministers are removed from ministries? The ten point plan will not work because Ministers are being fired willy nilly. How can we have a Minister who is inaugurated just for four days. How can the 10 Point Plan work? How can we implement the 10 Point Plan when things are like that? For a nation to develop and prosper, there are a lot of things that are involved. For a 10 Point Plan to be implemented, there should be peace in the nation and those who fought for the country should be looked after very well. How can the 10 Point Plan work when our war veterans are being chased away with teargas and water cannons when they want to air their grievances? When people are talking about the 10 Point Plan, our war veterans are sprayed with hot water on their bodies.

          As an Honourable Member from Musikavanhu, I am really pained with this. How then can our country go forward? Our war veterans who fought for the liberation of this country are now sprayed hot water which does not get off people’s bodies. Some are even developing skin rash because of that water. People are really pained by that. How can our 10 Point Plan be implemented when we are not giving our war veterans the respect that they deserve? We are injuring them, forgetting that they were injured during the war of liberation.

          *THE HON DEPUTY SPEAKER: Honourable Member, are you talking about the State of the Nation Address by His Excellency, the President or you are bringing in a different motion.

          *HON. MUTSEYAMI: Thank you Madam Speaker, I am referring to the 10 Point Plan, and asking how can it be implemented when things are like this. So I am bringing in everything, looking at the pros and cons of the 10 Point Plan. So, I am giving ideas to the President. I want to say to the President we saw the 10 Point Plan and looking at the land reform, I did not get the land but now I hear that Government has proposed a 10% tax. People are querying that. How come we are paying land tax for the land that we fought for? The colonial regime used to impose this kind of tax but now it has come back in a different manner.

          I know that this august House will agree with me but they cannot come out in the open. How can you pay tax on land which was fought for by the masses? I think we should look at how that plan will go ahead in a country like this. Looking at the land reform, we want irrigation projects to be implemented but if you look at the irrigation schemes like Nyanyadzi, Mutema, Chibuwe and Chisumbanje, they were implemented during the Smith regime. All these irrigation schemes are not new. They were there before Independence. For the people in these areas to engage in agriculture, they have to pay water, ZESA, ZINWA and they have to pay land tax. It does not need a rocket scientist to see that we are the ones who are throwing spanners in our works. Irrigation schemes should be rehabilitated so that we may look organised so that our 10 Point Plan is implemented.

          Looking at health, I have heard the Deputy Minister of Health and Child Care saying that donors from America, United Kingdom and Scandinavian countries are helping us when it comes to drugs that cure chronic diseases. If they just wake up and say they are withdrawing their support, it means that we will be in trouble as a nation. 85% of the drugs that we use in this country are donated from Europe. Our Government is only able to provide 10% hence it cannot provide medicine that can be used in the country. The people that we want to chase away are the ones who are helping when it comes to health and education. I want to thank you for the time that you have given me. I thank you.

          *HON. MANDIPAKA: Thank you Madam President. I was listening to the Honourable Member as he was debating. He brought to the fore some challenges…

          HON. TARUSENGA: On point of order. My point of order is that the Honourable Member is debating for the second time.

          *HON. MANDIPAKA: Before I was interrupted I was saying I was listening to Honourable Mutseyami as he was debating on the 10 Point Plan which was given by the President that it could be in shambles because of the challenges that we face as a nation. The first challenge that will hinder the progress of the 10 Point Plan is that we have our people who invite the media and say that in Zimbabwe we have people who abduct others like what happened on the issue that took place a few weeks ago when we saw MDC-T members demonstrating in Africa Unity Square saying that Itai Dzamara was killed by the State. That does not work because when we want foreign investment, people will not have confidence in us and this will hamper our progress as a nation.         

We should do things that make us progress as a nation. So, for us to paint this country in a bad picture will not bring in foreign direct investment. Those who want to do business with us will not come because they will be hearing that we are not good people to deal with. I think that is one thing which should have been talked about as one of the challenges that we face when implementing the 10-point plan.

          The President also talked about corruption. We should look at this closely because corruption kills a nation. It is an issue that we should refuse, not as the august House but as Zimbabweans that wherever corruption is taking place, it be investigated. Those who are found to be on the wrong side of the law must be given their correct dues and those who have more wealth than they are supposed to have, it should be taken. If you read in our newspapers, you hear that when it was mentioned that Itai Dzamara was missing, MDC-T said that they were suspecting ZANU PF was involved and the sanctions were revived. We have companies which have been added to the list as well, and this will hinder the progress of the Ten Point Plan. So, we should look at our politics.

          I also want to talk about what the President talked about on Special Economic Zones. He articulated very well that is what we want to do as a nation. So, I am appealing to the Minister who deals with investment that he should do this with speed and bring the Bill so that the places can be built to help build our economy. That is what I wanted to add but what is very important is that we should revisit our politics.

          *HON. MAPIKI: I also want to add my voice to the debate on the State of the Nation Address Speech. As a mature person, I have said I will not engage in petty issues. I will be the last one to debate. Our President R.G. Mugabe spoke strongly on the issue of agriculture. He said we are going to meet a lot of challenges because there are sell-outs in any struggle. When we had our first struggle that involved Mbuya Nehanda, there were sell-outs. We are talking of the struggle of 1897. We know that in all struggles there are challenges. In 1963 going forward, we have the likes of Muzorewa who also sold out to the enemy –[HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] …

          THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER (HON. MARUMAHOKO): Order Hon. Members to my left, please when you laugh just cut it shot. We cannot continue the way we are doing now.

          *HON. MAPIKI: When we went to the economic revolution –

Hon.Mutsvangwa having walked in – [MDC HON. MEMBERS: Chairman, chairman!] –

*HON. MAPIKI: When we addressed the land issue, there were also sell-outs who are hindering the progress of our country. The President has put some points on how we can go forward in terms of agriculture. Right now, the Government is busy trying to put irrigation schemes in place. Some of the machinery came from Brazil but as Zimbabweans, we also went ahead and looked at all the areas where we have water bodies and also looked at the old machinery that needs to be fixed so that we get enough food. We are happy with the rains have finally come. So, the plan of the President is going ahead because our dams now have water.

Right now, we know that we should be engaged in looking at winter cropping. We expect all the inputs to head to areas like Mashonaland Central, Mashonaland East and Mashonaland West so that we have wheat and winter maize in place. There are plans that we should have grass-cutting equipment in places like Midlands and Matebeleland so that the farming of cattle goes ahead. Places like Beitbridge should have hay for the cattle. So, the plans on irrigation are going ahead.

For example, in Mashonaland Central, we are saying each constituency should put 500 ha of maize under irrigation. So, we are working with ZESA and the irrigation people for this to go ahead. We have plans that each hectare should bring out five tonnes. So, if each constituency tills 500 ha, it means we will have enough food. What we are saying to the Minister of Energy is, there are a lot of transformers which are not functioning nearer to dams. I think these should be maintained so that we solve this issue of hunger.

The President also touched on health issues. Most Members of Parliament and people in the rural areas are busy right now constructing clinics so that people will not travel more than three kilometres seeking medical attention. Yes, there are some challenges that we are facing. We do not have enough nurses because the posts have been frozen. So, we plead with the Government that the posts for nurses be unfrozen. We are very rich here in Zimbabwe as one of the Hon. Members said. We have a lot of people who have been trained as nurses but are just not doing anything right now.

We know that Sudan and South Sudan need nurses. I think we should export those nurses that we train. Even the teacher training colleges, we should have more of them so that those children who do not have jobs can be trained as teachers and we can export them to such countries. We know that countries like Sudan need those services. What we are saying is that what the President said about health and education, we should go ahead with training. Even if we have an influx of those people, I think we should continue training, even lawyers too. We should export lawyers to America so that we get foreign currency here. The likes of Hon. Chamisa who did law should be exported. In Zimbabwe we can cry but still life goes on because we have a lot of professionally qualified people who are just sitting. We have the likes of Hon. Eng. Mudzuri just sitting here. We can export him to go and work in Sudan or Malawi and he can bring foreign currency into Zimbabwe. So, we should also be working towards strengthening the President’s Ten Point Plan and ensuring that it is being implemented. In 1980, the President said everyone should go to school but it was not so that you would look down upon a parent when you are educated but for you to revamp our economy.   So, people should have natural wisdom and be in a position to think better and do much more than they used to before going to school.  

The President’s plans on issues to do with health are going on well. Someone said Zimbabwe has 98% donor funded programmes and in light of that, that is why we are saying we should export our trained nurses out there. That could assist us to raise money to buy drugs for our country.   We are also still lagging behind in research so, I think we should also put a lot of money in research because we have a lot of learned people. We have failed even to research on how to make condoms. So, we should channel more money towards research or making more drugs from the abundant herbs that we have. Our country has a lot of herbs and if we have our children enrolling in research programmes at universities, there would be no need for us to import drugs from outside since we will be using our minds to work on production of drugs.

On the issue of education that the President raised, we can see a lot of progress and even if you go to the rural areas, in most areas schools have been built. However, the challenge that still remains is that we do not have enough teachers because some provinces were overstaffed while some did not have enough teachers. But the Ministry has now come up with a plan for teachers to go and teach where they were initially deployed and concentrate on their areas of expertise. This has improved our education after eradicating the mismatch that was there. A person trained to teach history was teaching mathematics so, Dr. Dokora and Prof. Moyo are busy trying to match people’s skills with what they have trained in. Currently, in our education system they have now introduced what they call STEM. That is what was lagging behind for the children of Zimbabwe skilled in science subjects to be nurtured in those areas so as to be able to work in various science jobs so that we do not just have to look outside for expertise to make medicines from our own herbs or to make machinery or software for computers.  

This will bring dignity to our country. We are not the first ones to do this because countries like Malaysia, Ghana and Rwanda have created wealth through using their own resources. So, people who came up with STEM were really using their brains. As a parent, an old man like myself, I feel very proud that I was able to take my children to school who will be able to come and uplift the whole nation through the training they will have received. We do not want children who go to school and come back and look down upon their parents because that will be a problem. However, the children that have been sent to school so far have come back with good ideas and are assisting their families and the nation.

Then on corruption, the President spoke strongly about corruption. He said we should fight corruption and he talked about the setting of the Anti-Corruption Commission. He went further to say that even if we come up with an Anti-Corruption Commission but those people seeing corruption continue to be quiet about it, it could result in the Commission not achieving anything. He said we should have an independent Anti-Corruption Commission that will fight corruption.

The President is also very much concerned when he hears of missing funds because we said we should come up with an Anti-Corruption Commission which has the mandate to deal with such issues. He is very much against corruption and he made sure corruption will be removed. I was very happy with the plans that the Commission is now auditing the books from the Auditor General’s office so that they can shed light on the allegations of corruption by the office.   If they are found guilty, they should be prosecuted. This will bring a stop to corruption in such offices.  

The last issue that I want to touch on is that when there is a funeral

at Mr. Mapiki’s house, people go and use that funeral as a campaign

ground.   If we are at a funeral, let us concentrate on the funeral and not talk about other people’s business. In 2008, 200 people went missing, and no one demonstrated but now that one person is missing, you want the whole nation to go berserk because of that one person. I think Mr. Speaker Sir, we need to look into such issues seriously. Thank you.        

*HON. MANGAMI: I also rise to add my voice to the Ten Point Plan as articulated by the President in his State of the Nation Address. I want to look at what other institutions like our Parliament are doing in line with the implementation of the 10 Point Plant. For the past two days to date, you can see that the ICT department is out there enabling us to be computer literate. Even our Votes and Proceedings will be sent to us electronically in our constituencies. So, the onus is on us and other Government institutions to have network in the different areas for this technology to work.

I also want to look at agriculture. The President said we should rehabilitate our agriculture in different ways.   We saw him signing MOUs with China and in today’s paper I was pleased to read that it is an ongoing process. As I look at drought, it is a natural disaster that one cannot plan for because you do not know whether it will be there or not. Currently we are talking about climate change and as Government, we have set aside money for people to use while agriculture is on-going. I think this Ten Point Plan will move ahead because our water levels have improved. I was looking forward to the Ministry of Water and Climate ensuring that dams are made in each and every ward so that we have a lot of irrigation schemes as mitigation against drought is a form of employment creation. Many schools are teaching agriculture, so we want that agriculture to be implemented and people using the dams that would have been constructed. The Ministry of Transport and Infrastructural Development should buy scoops that will remove sand from our dams. They should do like what they did with the graders.

          I heard one speaker saying that one day Africa is going to burn because we have few water bodies. I want to buy that because the heat waves we are experiencing are now rampant in Africa. A few weeks ago, people were fainting and crops withered. I heard someone saying they grew 40 hectares of potatoes but they yielded nothing because of this heat.

          Looking at the President’s Ten Point Plan, the will is there that if one can yield 40 hectares, for those who were given land, we will prosper as a country. In terms of energy, the President said the Chinese are going to help in this project. I was happy reading the newspaper about the two gentlemen who came up with the generation of hydro –power; Hon Members, when we see that such people’s projects are feasible, the Research Department should look into such projects and whether they are viable for the generation of energy so that we accomplish the Ten Point Plan.

          On the National Railways of Zimbabwe (NRZ) issue, I know that there are challenges in this parastatal but these problems are not permanent when people are united, they will be temporary. If people fight over it, the problems will remain. It was one of the issues that those who want to help us looked at. As a nation we should enact a law which stipulates that certain goods will only be ferried by railway not by any other means of transport, so that we improve NRZ. The other thing that affected NRZ was people who stole power lines. We had electric locomotives and they are no longer there because the power lines were vandalized. It is our duty as Zimbabweans to point out those people because some of them are our relatives and children. We should not look at this issue on a partisan basis but we should vindicate these people so that we build our country.

          In conclusion, I want to say that we are very lucky to have such a President who can come with such a plan. That shows wisdom, it is now up to us to implement. We should enact laws which will lead us to achieve the Ten Point Plan. I thank you.

          *HON. MUPFUMI: Thank you Mr. Speaker for affording me this opportunity to debate on the State of the Nation Address. Our country Zimbabwe, in 1980 or even before that, all those seated over there could not write…

          HON. MUNENGAMI: On a point of order. I think the Hon. Member should say something with evidence. I am a war veteran, I was fighting for this country by then. He should provide factual information.

          THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER (HON. MARUMAHOKO): There is no point of order.

          HON. CHIMANIKIRE: On a point of order. Mr. Speaker, the Hon. Member said Members on this side were not able to write. My point of order is I am 61 years old. In 1980, I was actually graduating from a technical college. So, how can there be no point of order when he says we were illiterate, he was not even born by then. He must withdraw his statement – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections] –

          THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Order, order Hon. Chimanikire, I think if you had followed his hand, he was looking on that side, not at you. – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections] – Order, order, please take your seat?

          HON. CHIMANIKIRE: Thank you Mr. Speaker. Even most of the Members of Parliament here were not born. I am referring to education, the President is the one who brought literacy to the Blacks for us to have lawyers and engineers here so that we are a well developed country. For our country to achieve the Ten Point Plan, the onus is on us people of Zimbabwe to be united…

          THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Order, Hon. Member. Hon. Members on my left, do not be surprised if I name someone to leave the House. Let us behave. You may proceed.

          *HON. MUPFUMI: For a country to develop, we should have the opposition. They should point out where the ruling party has erred. The country gives money to the opposition so that we can build our nation, but when the opposition is given money; their leaders start to be immoral. –[HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections]-

          HON. P. D. SIBANDA: On a point of order Mr. Speaker.

          THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Order, what is your point of order?

          HON. P. D. SIBANDA: My point of order is that the Hon. Member has to stick to the motion that he is debating on. When His Excellency, the President spoke in this House, he never said divide the people of Zimbabwe into opposition and ruling. He spoke ...

          THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Order, what is your point of order?

          HON. P. D. SIBANDA: Thank you Mr. Speaker. He never spoke about the morality of people of this country or leaders of this country. Therefore, the Hon. Member should stick to the issues that are in the motion that is under debate.

          *THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Hon. Members, I am here to control and direct debate. If you continue behaving like that, I will eject two or three members. Let us act as mature people who respect this House. Can the Hon. Member speak and not bring confusion in Parliament?

          *HON. MUPFUMI: Thank you Mr. Speaker. I am saying the President spoke about discipline; that Members of Parliament should not rape children and people in positions...-[HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections]- For a country to have money...

          HON. MARIDADI: On a point of order Mr. Speaker.

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: What is your point of order?

HON. MARIDADI: My point of order is that the Hon. Member is making reference to Dr. Kereke whose case is before the courts.

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Order, order please! May you take your seat? Hon. Maridadi, he did not mention any name, therefore you have no right to assume on his behalf.

HON. J. TSHUMA: On a point of order Mr. Speaker.

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: I have already made a ruling, what is your point of order?

HON. J. TSHUMA: Mr. Speaker Sir, I think it is not enough. He must withdraw that because what Hon. Maridadi has said is on record in the Hansard. So, he must withdraw that because he has already assumed. –[HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections]-

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Hon. Maridadi, when the Hon. Member Mupfumi spoke, he did not mention a name, and you went on to mention a name. I am sure you will have to withdraw that. –[HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections]-

HON. MARIDADI: Mr. Speaker, am I withdrawing on the basis of the ruling by the Hon. Member?

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: May you withdraw.

HON. MARIDADI: Mr. Speaker, you had not given a ruling until he raised a point of order. He raises a point of order on top of my point of order and...

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Hon.Maridadi, may you withdraw.

HON. MARIDADI: What am I supposed to withdraw Mr. Speaker?

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: The name Kereke, where did you get the name from? Order please!

HON. MARIDADI: Mr. Speaker, in the abundance of respect for your Chair, I withdraw although I do not think ... –[HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections]-

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: You may proceed Hon. Member.

*HON. MUPFUMI: Thank you Mr. Speaker. For a country to have money, the President comes in this House and he urges us to unite as Zimbabweans. We should live in harmony with our neighbours, but we see the opposition going to U.K. and U.S.A...

HON. MUNENGAMI: On a point of order Mr. Speaker.

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: What is your point of order?

HON. MUNENGAMI: Hon. Speaker, in your earlier ruling, you clearly stated that he must not say divisive statements and he is continuing exactly what you asked him not to do. Can he also withdraw that statement? Thank you. –[HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections]-

*THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Order, Hon. Mupfumi, I asked you that you should speak to the motion.

*HON. MUPFUMI: I agree with your ruling, but there is no one who is not aware that MDC called for sanctions, so we no longer have money and we are using United States dollar. Our people are in trouble because of MDC. It is even on record – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] –

HON. MURAI: On a point of order, Mr. Speaker Sir. This Hon. Member of Parliament is continuing to defy your orders. He is defying the Speaker.

*HON. MUPFUMI: The President also talked about corruption in our country. Looking at corruption in this country, corruption is rampant in the MDC run councils. Each and every day the councils in the urban areas which are run by the MDC, like in Mutare, you find that we do not have water in Dangamvura. We only got water after getting money from the fiscus, yet the councillors took the money. Now we have had ten years in Dangamvura with no running water. So, if you are saying that the people from the MDC should unite with the Government, we are building, but the MDC is interfering with the building. The MDC reports negatively…

*HON. MURAI: On a point of order, Mr. Speaker Sir. It shows that the Hon. Member is not listening to what you are saying. He is going further, dividing the House on political lines. He is including names of parties saying MDC-T.

HON. MANDIPAKA: On a point of order, Mr. Speaker Sir – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] –

*THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Order, order! Hon. Maridadi, this should be the last warning I give to you.

*HON. MANDIPAKA: Hon. Speaker, we were asking for your protection. We cannot hear what Hon. Mupfumi is debating. He is talking about Mr. Kombai who stole money and gave it to Tsvangirai – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] –

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Order, order please! Honourable ladies to my left, one of you will go out very soon. I do not expect ladies to make noise as you are doing. There will no longer be any point of orders.

HON. MUKWANGWARIWA: On a point of order, Mr. Speaker Sir – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] –

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: No more point of orders. Hon. Mupfumi, please continue with your debate. You only have two minutes remaining.

HON. MUPFUMI: Thank you Mr. Speaker. When we come here to Parliament we should speak on the positive. We know we do not have money. People are struggling in councils. In Gweru, we have a problem. The MDC councillors are entertaining Tsvangirai when he visits them – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections.] –

[Time limit]

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: Order, order! Hon. Members from both sides, please maintain your cool. Please, take your seats.

*HON. MATAMBANADZO: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir, for according me this opportunity to add my voice on the State of the Nation Address where he gave us the Ten Point Plan. We want to stand with what the President said. I was very happy today when I heard the Hon. Members from the opposition talking about the President. He gave an opportunity for opposition to come into Parliament. So, I want to applaud him for that goodness.

I want to show our people that that is what has led our President to be invited to other countries like India. India invited our President after seeing that he is a good leader. That he should visit a country of over close to a billion people showing them how they should live following their culture. They said that the rightful President who has such qualities worldwide is our President. So, because of that recognition, he was recognised because of his good leadership. Those who do not like him, his enemies were not happy. You have heard them saying that he was invited by a Council. Can a council invite the President through the President of that country? It is the President of that country who invited him. They saw it fit for him to go and display his expertise – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections] – this expertise – [AN HON. MEMBER: Gara pasi] –

*HON. MUTSEYAMI: On a point of order Mr. Speaker. My point of order Mr. Speaker is that the Hon. Member is lying to the nation by saying the Indian President invited the President of Zimbabwe. It is not a good thing to lie to the nation – [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections] –

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER: There is no point of order there.

HON. MATAMBANADZO: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. This expertise has not been noted today, if I can assist this august House. The President acted as a unifier to many conflicting countries. He was called to preside over mediation processes in conflict countries where the parties to the conflict looked upon the intervention of God himself. Kuwait and Iran once engaged in a conflict but our President was party to the peace process of that war.

The civil war in Mozambique where Matsanga had caused instability in that country as an opposition similar to what we have here, the President also went and mediated on the conflict. There was also a conflict that erupted in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC). The President mediated to end that conflict where the opposition had caused conflict. The opposition can be likened to the one we have here, it also wanted to cause a conflict but it was unsuccessful. The conflicts which happened to the countries I am referring to here have not happened because the opposition failed in their machinations. There is now peace and stability in DRC. All these events were well thought of by India as they were making a decision on which President to choose from Africa or the world over who has expertise. His Excellency, President Robert Mugabe was invited to that country to officiate at a ceremony in India.

I now move on to the mining industry. I am so thankful that the President chose an able Minister. Comparing the inclusive Government and the current ZANU PF Government, there is a notable difference in the mining industry. There was a time when the country realised only four tones of gold at the end of the year during the inclusive Government.

Today, under the reigns of the ZANU PF Government, the President appointed Hon. Minister Chidhakwa who is knowledgeable, this year we produced 19.7 tonnes of gold. This expertise by the Minister led to the unearthing of corruption which was machinated by MDC Government officials during the Inclusive Government. This led to the loss of a lot of diamonds. The US$15 billion revenue, which is claimed to have been lost in the diamond mining, took place from the period spanning from the inclusive Government to this day. The intelligent Minister investigated and found out about this loss and stopped the mining companies from operating. Today, the opposition is now using the corruption act which they were party to during their reign in the Inclusive Government to accuse the current Government. Who was able to unearth this corruption involving US$15 billion, which was announced by the President? The ZANU PF Minister was able to unearth this and you should applaud him for that. [HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear] –

On the Ministry of Energy, you are all aware who was presiding over the Ministry. To date, the MDC Minister is still involved in court cases because he ran down the Ministry. I am surprised to hear opposition Members of Parliament speak against the vandalisation of power lines. When did this happen? It was during the Inclusive Government. You are the ones who organised a gang of thieves and your youths stole and vandalised power lines. This is something which is well known. Today, when you know that you have committed crimes in this country, you accuse ZANU PF.

*HON. MAJAYA: On a point of order Mr. Speaker, there is no quorum in the House.

[Bells rung]

Quorum formed.

HON. MATUKE: I move that the debate do now adjourn.

HON. CHINOTIMBA: I second.

Motion put and agreed to.

Debate to resume: Tuesday, 5th April, 2016.

ANNOUNCEMENTS BY THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER

NON-ADVERSE REPORT RECEIVED FROM THE PARLIAMENTARY LEGAL COMMITTEE

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER (HON. MARUMAHOKO): I have received non-adverse reports from the Parliamentary Legal Committee on the following Bills:

The Manicaland State University of Applied Sciences Bill [H.B. 82, 2016] and the Gwanda State University Bill [H.B. 9, 2016].

ADVERSE REPORT RECEIVED FROM THE PARLIAMENTARY LEGAL COMMITTEE

THE TEMPORARY SPEAKER (HON. MARUMAHOKO): I have also received an adverse report from the Parliamentary Legal Committee on the following Bill; National Peace and Reconciliation Bill [H.B. 13, 2015].

On the motion of THE DEPUTY MINISTER OF TOURISM AND HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY (HON. A. NDHLOVU), the House adjourned at Twenty Seven Minutes to Five o’clock p.m. until Tuesday, 5th April, 2016.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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