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NATIONAL ASSEMBLY HANSARD - 20 October 2009 VOL. 36 NO. 2

 PARLIAMENT OF ZIMBABWE

Tuesday, 20th October, 2009

The House of Assembly met at a Quarter-past Two O'clock p.m

 

PRAYERS

(MR SPEAKER in the Chair)

MOTION

PRESIDENTIAL SPEECH: DEBATE ON ADDRESS

MR NYAMUPINGA: I move the motion standing in my name that a respectful address be presented to the President of Zimbabwe as follows:-

May it pleases you, your Excellency the President:

We, the Members of Parliament of Zimbabwe, desire to express our loyalty to Zimbabwe and beg leave to offer our respectful thanks for the speech, which you have been pleased to address to Parliament.

MR BHASIKITI: I second.

MR NYAMUPINGA: Thank you very much Mr. Speaker for according me this opportunity to present my response on the occasion of the Official Opening of the Second Session of the Parliament of Zimbabwe. I would also want to present my maiden speech. Let me express my sincere gratitude to His Excellency for his wisdom and rare leadership qualities. I also want to express my sincere gratitude to my constituency, Goromonzi West, for the political maturity which they displayed during 2008 elections. I want also to congratulate His Excellency on the signing of the Global Political Agreement and subsequent formation of the Inclusive Government, and I also want to congratulate you Mr. Speaker on being elected into office.

I also want to express my sincere gratitude to the people of Goromonzi constituency for their tolerant and peaceful conduct of elections, which was commendable, and I promise to execute my duty diligently and in their best interest and aspirations.

His Excellency touched on a number of very important issues that confront our national economy at present. Goromonzi West Constituency is an area that has many developmental challenges. It is my trust, hope and prayer that through working together and with the assistance from the Inclusive Government, we will urgently unroll programmes to tackle these challenges.

As I respond to the Presidential Address I will refer to Goromonzi West development issues as they relate particularly to the Global Political Agreement, agriculture, education, transport, health and the ratification of the SADC Protocol on Gender and Development.

The Global Political Agreement

The Global Political Agreement was the first to be referred to in the Presidential Speech. This clearly shows the importance of the Inclusive Government that has ushered in a new era of cooperation and unity of purpose in our effort to become a united Zimbabwe. Despite the constraints and challenges that are still being experienced, you will agree with me that noticeable progress has been registered in both the economy and the political front. I would like to applaud the three principals for their hard work and commitment to the development and progress of this beautiful country. In the same vein, I want to use this opportunity to extend to the people of Goromonzi gratitude towards our principals for affording the people of Zimbabwe the opportunity to once again work in harmony and tranquility. People in Goromonzi are indeed willing and proud to play their part in this new dispensation in a clear spirit of mutual collaboration to develop their area.

The Constitution Making Process

Mr. Speaker Sir, His Excellency Cde. R. G. Mugabe in his Presidential Address, highlighted that part of the Inclusive government is the making of the new Constitution. His emphasis that the Thematic Sub-Committees will garner the views of all the people for consideration is most welcome particularly by all women. You will recall that no women were present at the peace negotiations and formulation of the Lancaster House Constitution. Hence, the current Constitution has several short comings when it comes to the articulation of women's fundamental rights. The best Constitution making process is one that is dominated by people. Women are the people, since they constitute above 52% of the population. On behalf of the people of Goromonzi West, I would like to thank the President and his Inclusive Government for initiating the process of making a new Constitution. To the management committee and select committee of Parliament I would say the people in my Constituency are ready and willing to participate in this historic process.

Agricultural Inputs and Tillage Services

Mr. Speaker Sir, allow me the opportunity to salute the partnership between the Government, African Investment group and ASP Marketing for addressing the issue of inputs and tillage services for the 2009/2010 agricultural season. As we all know, Zimbabwe's economy hinges mainly on agriculture, thus effective and timeous provision on inputs and tillage services will definitely be the answer to our under performance in the agricultural sector. It is the common feeling of the people of Goromonzi West Constituency that the untimeous and inadequate provision of inputs will compromise the quality or the yields. We hope all the agents tasked to distribute the inputs shall honor their responsibility to ensure a bumper harvest 2009/2010 season.

Education

Mr. Speaker, education has not been performing to the expected standards in Goromonzi West. To start with, out of 23 schools, only two have computers. Further, the general infrastructure , learning material such as text books and exercise books and the school buildings are in a sorry state. The worst affected schools include Cheza, Munyawiri, Pote, Kachuta, Mutake, Mutanhurwa, Nyamande and Nyakudya Primary Schools. I would like to express my appreciation of the good work that the Inclusive government has already accomplished, students are now back in their classrooms.

Be that as it may, parents and school development committees are concerned about a new practice whereby teachers are demanding daily payments from parents and students. The challenges that are being faced by teachers and indeed other civil servants across the board concerning the remuneration are well known. However, to try to address the problem of such magnitude through demanding supplementary payments from fellow civil servants and communal residents most of whom are old grand parents due to HIV/AIDS prevalence is not morally sound and is unsustainable. May I appeal to the Ministry of Education, Sport, Arts and Culture to come up with an acceptable policy position on this matter.

Goromonzi West Constituency welcomes the amendment to the Education Act that is aimed at addressing the method of fees and levies, as well as the role of parents and School Development Committees and hope that it will address some of the challenges.

Access to clean water

What is happening in Domboshava in terms of shortage of water mirrors the challenges that the people of Goromonzi West grapple with everyday. The majority of bore holes have broken down and all major dams have been silted - particularly those in wards one and two. People are now relying on water from natural streams and this does not augur well in light of the risk posed by the cholera epidemic.

Post Office

Mr. Speaker, my constituency is in Mashonaland East and they get their Post Office services from Harare. The same applies to GMB services, they have to travel to Masasa from Domboshava. My humble appeal is that, to facilitate communication and development, it is advisable that a Post Office be established in Goromonzi West Constituency and a GMB Depot to ensure that people can access relevant services at their convenience.

The Ratification of the SADC Protocol on Gender and Development

Mr. Speaker, may I take this opportunity to express my heart felt and undiluted happiness that this session is going to witness the ratification of the SADC Protocol on Gender and development. You are aware that Zimbabwe is a signatory to this Protocol that was adopted in 2008. Among other things, the Protocol seeks to ensure the promotion and protection of the rights of women and elimination of all forms of discrimination against women. Within the framework of this protocol, women representation target is now 50/50, not only in Parliament but also in other strategic institutions and at all decision making levels. The 50% women representation is not only reflective of women's 52% in the country's population, but is well in line with the spirit of inclusivity and democratic practices that have since been embraced by the United Nations and the African Union.

The fact that this protocol is to be ratified during this Second Session of the Seventh Parliament is a historic and important occasion for all of us MPs and indeed as a nation. Gender equality and women representation and participation's ultimate goal is to attain economic growth, good governance and betterment of the living standards for all citizens. My appeal to all MPs is to focus on this important protocol and support its ratification for the benefit of our nation. Further, I would like to add that ratification does not mark the end of this process. Ratification is only a means to an end. Once ratified, the Protocol has to be domesticated to ensure that it becomes part of our Constitution and national laws.

Transport

Mr. Speaker, I commend His Excellency for his position on the carnage on our roads. The people of Goromonzi West are seriously concerned about the rampant accidents on our roads. In this regard, my constituency hails the stiff penalties on motorists who break traffic laws and regulations.

The roads are in a bad state particularly Sasa, Munyawiri, Pote and Nyamane roads. Due to the fact that the roads are impassable, passenger transporters are few and people have to walk close to ten or so kilometers to get to the nearest bus station.

Health

Mr. Speaker, Makumbe hospital is the referral hospital in Goromonzi West. Currently, there are serious challenges that the mortuary and wards capacity have to be upgraded to cater for higher numbers. The hospital used to be a referral centre for TB but the machines are now obsolete and dilapidated and need to be replaced. The hospital kitchen for the staff has also to be renovated as it is in a bad state.

Be that as it may the people of Goromonzi West cherish the President for his stance to re-engage Zimbabwe on dialogue that links us with the global village and that include the EU. We share the President's vision that Zimbabwe is part and shall remain part of the international community and that she shall strive to network herself and link with the global community. One writer said that, building durawalls is not the solution but building bridges is. The people in my constituency shall continue to show their unwavering support for Zimbabwe's engagement with the international community.

Mr. Speaker, we all know the solution to Zimbabwe's plight. It is either we swim or we sink, but you will agree with me that our choice is obvious, we definitely have to swim. I will end this presentation by quoting His Excellency verbatim, "Let us continue to work hard and purposely and united in all our socio- economic sectors. Together let us build the bridges of unity, forgiveness, trust and togetherness". In Goromonzi West, the Constituency's slogan is, " United Zimbabwe in body, mind and spirit".

God bless this country.

MR BHASIKITI : Mr. Speaker, I come very much refreshed by the same spirit of co-existence, cooperation, effective engagement by all members, not disengagement.

MR SPEAKER : Order, hon member I have recognised you to speak in response to the address by His Excellency, the President, please address yourself to the motion.

MR BHASIKITI : Thank you Mr Speaker Sir, the same spirit which was cast here by His Excellency the President when he came to present his speech on this Second Session of the Seventh Parliament of Zimbabwe is quite historic in the sense that it comes into effect when we are united as a nation. This is what I was explaining Mr Speaker Sir. In pursuance of that there are so many Bills which are going to be presented before this august House.

The number of Bills which are going to come before this House clearly spells out the seriousness by which we, Members of Parliament have to engage each other in order to move our country forward. He presented before us the issue of the Constitution of Zimbabwe which is quite historic because in essence there have been several amendments to our Constitution which was explaining that this Constitution was a foreign driven Constitution. We want a Constitution which can stay for 100 years without being amended. This is why His Excellency explained that this process will be a people driven Constitution. Those who want to derail the process will be put to shame because the representatives of the people are all here. Some claimed to have ownership when they are representing only themselves, not even their wives - but we are going to handle this process in such a way those detractors will be proved wrong and put to shame.

His Excellency, put before this House that this Second Session is going to see many improvements in our diplomatic and democratic systems of operation. The Media Commission, Electoral Commission, Anti Corruption Commission and Human Rights Commission will be established. This indicates the seriousness with which His Excellency is looking at how we as a nation should blend ourselves and demonstrate to the international community that we are a nation not developing but developed because our way of doing things, even our inclusivity is different from the Kenyans - [HMS: Inaudible interjections] - Zvinonetsa Mr Speaker kuti marriage yatakapinda iyi ikanganiswe because of common purpose.

The Human Rights Bills are also meant to improve the way we run our systems. The other people define human rights for us but we want to define it ourselves and hence the Bill will be presented before us. The Public Finance Bill is meant to put our audit and financial management system up to date. What is required hon members is to engage and fully apply ourselves especially when such Bills come like the RBZ Bill because we are no longer a Parliament to fast track and rubber stamp. Some of the Bills we will throw away because it is prudent upon us as legislators that we should scrutinise issues. If any frivolous Bill comes before us we should be able to send it where it originated. This is the mandate before us that is why we all need to be focused and united.

His Excellency presented the Input and Farming Schemes and our preparedness to make sure that we make the best of this agricultural season and the US$210m which was secured for this purpose. It is my wish that this money be effectively put to good use, but also my fears are, this facility may not be properly utilised if it is not designed to be user friendly because most of our farmers are already on the ground but the bankers will want to see surity, title deeds and all those other things. It is therefore my proposal that while the inputs are being bought for safe keeping at GMB, depots should quickly distribute to ready farmers so that they make use of them. They should do that up until April next year at all GMB Depots. That is the purpose for which His Excellency led these skills for our nation and for our people.

Mr Speaker, Sir the Mines and Minerals Act is going to be presented before this House. While we are yet to see the contents of it, we have higher expectations that this is the sector which is second to our agricultural sector which is our number one sector. We should now be structured in such a way that mining can drive the maximum benefit for the indigenous people and for the nation. There are so many mines which are lying idle because someone just claimed that for the past fifty years. I think as they amend, I am quite optimistic some of the important key issues, which will make sure our mines are brought to good use, will be brought before this House.

Mr. Speaker Sir, the Energy Regulatory Bill which is to come before this House, heightens our expectations that as we move forward, we do not want to remain such a country which look upon others for manufacturing of vehicles. We only have Willovale Motor Industries which manufacture new vehicles. I think as a nation we should have a system which encourages and promote the manufacturing of new vehicles apart from what Willovale Motor Industries does in our own country. As this Bill comes, it is our expectation that , as the President said, we want to see less of second hand vehicles and let us create more of the new factories which can manufacture for our people. These second hand vehicles describe us and we do not want to be described that way.

The Information and Communication Technology Bill is one such important Bill which also raises our expectations. I was electrified when the President -[ Laughter]- -[AN HON MEMBER: Akabatwa nemagetsi,was electrocuted]- yes. When the President, the Minister in this Ministry who happens to be the youngest, are dreaming of how to improve technology and how to improve communication. I am quite assured that this Minister is not disengaged -[AN HON MEMBER: Chigara pasi]- His Excellency drew our attention to the important role which tourism can play in our nation for the recovery of our economy in view of the 2010 FIFA games ahead of us. I am quite confident that those who are charged with these tasks are sparing no effort, we can see signs on the ground. The Hon. Minister is spearing it. I do not want appear showering praises for him, let them continue to engage and make sure we get the maximum benefit.

One of the Bills which we are going to scrutinize in this House in this Second Session is the Small and Medium Enterprises Bill. Our economic system has moved a step further where the Small and Medium Scale Enterprises should not be considered as mere subsistence. When I look in greater parts of the City of Harare, what I seem to be witnessing is, most of the properties in this important City still belong to the hands of national foreigners. If we move forward to further equip and strengthen the Small to Medium Enterprises, we need to make a deliberate effort to empower our people to have money. We should empower them by lending from our banks so that they buy property and start businesses in the cities and turn our economy.

If we continue to relegate some of the important strategic positions for business operations to those who started when they had money earlier on, we will remain Small and Medium. His Excellency said there will be points put across the country to make sure these will graduate into business operations. I will draw members to the attention of the Education Act which again is a very important instrument in the education of our children. We have been witnessing a very contradictory statement and position in this important department or ministry whereby our pupils, sons and daughters are almost put to risk of not writing examinations. This should not happen in an independent Zimbabwe. If there is no money government should raise the money. It will be disgruntling to have hon. members presiding as Hon. Ministers to set this deadline for the payment of examination fees. His Excellency had to intervene and said everyone should write and the money should be staggered.

Mr. Speaker Sir, I want to draw your attention to a very important point raised by His Excellency when he made his presentation on the opening of the Seventh Parliament indicating that we as a nation, would like to engage everyone, and want to co-exist with everyone..... last part of speech not recorded due to technical fault.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, hon. members, we are not in a beer garden.

MR. H. MUDZURI: I thank you for giving me this opportunity to respond to the President's speech, which he delivered on 6th October 2009. It is my hope that this Second Session is going to be more fulfilling and more efficient than the previous one.

Mr. Speaker, the President's speech was not different in character from previous speeches that he gave when he was opening Parliament. It was just poison that was coated in sugar. The speech touched on the level of Zimbabwe as evidenced by the problems experienced by the different ministries and the different sectors in Zimbabwe.

I would just like to thank the President for accepting that the former government actually ruined Zimbabwe to unacceptable levels. I would like to thank him for pointing out that recovery plans and measures are critically needed and these plans and measures can only be functional if, and only if we work together.

Mr. Speaker, those people who are still in the fool's paradise take the President's speech as a fool's gold. Conspicuous by their absence in the President's speech are the outstanding issues in the GPA. These outstanding issues include the swearing in of governors, the arbitrary nomination of the Governor of the Reserve Bank and the arbitrary appointment of Tomana, the persecution of the MDC-T officials, MPs and activists and the role of the public media which is still infested with hate speech and nagative propaganda. By ignoring these outstanding issues in his speech, the President rendered his speech a master piece of deception. This actually exposed the misconception that conditions and conditioning are determining the destiny of this country. I think the destiny of this country is in our hands.

I say the speech was a master piece of deception because what was said does not reconcile with what is practically happening politically and economically in this country. In short, the ideal and the real are not compatible. In his speech, he actually simulates power sharing with other parties, but in practice my colleagues dissimulate and presimulate power over other parties. They want to simulate inclusiveness whilst they practise and dissimulate exclusiveness in this country.

I want to say all these strategies - all these tactics, all these dispositions and all these manouvres will not help the cause of making Zimbabwe a better country for us. We can only build the Zimbabwe that we want to build if we have a paradigm shift and we become what we should be, we become sincere, honest and true to each other, without hidden machinations, without hidden agendas of preserving the status quo.

In his speech, the President talked about luring skilled personnel from the diaspora. These people will never feel safe to come back if the Zimbabwe they left two or five years ago is still as it is. If the people whom they ran away from are still behaving in the manner and way they were behaving, I do not know that in practice is there any mutual collaboration if there is persecution of one party, and if there is demeaning of one party by another?

Mr. Speaker, he also talked about improving the conditions of service of civil servants, teachers included. I know that even the devil quoted the Bible, it was almost the same. How can the same person, the same people who were giving teachers salaries that could not buy $2 or 50 cents at Roadport for 12 or 24 months, today they are saying US$150 is not enough? Yes, it is not enough but are you genuine now that today you cry for them?

Mr. Speaker, are they not the same people who killed the same teachers? Are they not the same people who raped the teachers and burnt houses and schools? Are they not the same people who destroyed our education system? I think this was merely trying to corrupt the teachers but now we are in sheeps' clothing. So, we are sheep but not all civil servants are that gullible. He talked about the Constitution making and surely these are the people who were throwing bottles at the conference. It is the behaviour that I am saying should be reconciled with what I am saying. These are the people who are saying the Constitution is an MDC agenda and so never to that. They are using the tactics of delaying to submit names and these are the same people who are talking about the constitution making. That is the master piece of deception that I said earlier on.

He talked of the Zimbabwe Media Commission but ZBC is still infested with the hate language and spreading the wrong message. After the formation of the inclusive government, that is when we started to hear of the propaganda of Head of State, the Head of government and ...-[HON MEMBERS : Inaudible interjections]-

THE DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, order hon. members.

MR H. MUDZURI: What these people are talking to me is that they have a big threat here. They are saying the leader and First Secretary of ZANU PF that lost an election in 2008, he is the only father of Bona...

MR BHASIKITI: On a point of order Madam Speaker. It is said in our Standing Rules that members when contributing should not make such derogatory reference.

THE DEPUTY SPEAKER: Hon. member can you please refrain from that.

MR H. MUDZURI: Coming to the economic recovery, the President talked of STERP and the Medium Term Plan but before that have we sat down to value why STERP did not deliver, even if we are going to have a Medium and Long Term Plan, that will not work. We need to have a paradigm shift to change our mind set so that we accept each other. If that is not done, even any name to any economic blue print will not work.

We are saying, coming with the real change of Zimbabwe and behaviour, we need some repentance.

On tourism he highlighted that because we are having the world Cup in 2010, then our tourism sector is going to be boosted or is going to be good. That is ideal but if Zimbabwe has not changed, not by branding it and putting some make up on it - if you are putting make up on a dirty face the make up may be dirtier and we have a frightening face. What we want is to stop putting make up to a dirty face and have a face which is almost like a caricature or a mask that will frighten our tourists. What it means is only a sadist tourist who has a desire to see people being prosecuted or arrested for no reason will come as a tourist. We want to clean our mess so that our tourists will come to a clean environment.

In conclusion, I would like to say the President's speech in short was just a fools' day speech on a wrong day. It was supposed to be said on the first of April but it was said on the 6th of October.

MRS MATAMISA: I thank you Madam Speaker for affording me this opportunity to add my voice to the Presidential Address.

MRS MATAMISA: It is with joy that all of us talk of the Inclusive Government. We must talk of the inclusive government, that the Global Political Agreement gave birth to. After the birth of the Global Political Agreement we found ourselves in these arrangements, which people want to say oneness, but I do not know whether I will call it oneness.

Madam Speaker, His Excellency talked of the ushering in of the new era of democracy. I want to quote a certain book I read written by Sandra Myres which say that "the only thing necessary for triumph is for evil men and evil women to do nothing.

Zimbabwe democracy is not a real democracy, which other nations enjoy. It is unique because of certain failures here and there. That is when we opt to negotiate and come up with a coalition to bring sanity to Zimbabwe after the madness that had gotten into some of our partners. It was also to give time to allow us time to deal with lawlessness it was also to give us time to look into how best to rebuild the economy of Zimbabwe then we need to come up with a people driven democratic Constitution. After this, we then move to a free and fair elections and that is what everyone is dying for. We are a democratic nation, we believe in democracy. Let me hasten to say that I do not dispute what the President of Zimbabwe said when he was talking of the good things only. The whole Hansard is full of good things. We must learn to tell it like it is, that is democracy. Lets assess things on the ground, and come up with solutions. When we talk of good things only and leave out bad things it will become problematic.

Madam Speaker, there are these various Bills which are set to sail in Parliament, I do not dispute them it is time that they be brought in this House. The problem is, let us look at the issues he addressed; he talked about inputs, tillage and servicing. We are almost half October if you go to DDF you will find that the tractors and every equipment is baggard and not functioning, but we are saying we want to improve food security in Zimbabwe when things are in such a state. It is disheartening to learn that the same people who made the situation worse are still in the Ministry.

Madam Speaker, I would like to talk about the bad things left out. In the mining sector he said the challenges are griping, what challenges are they. He talked of Chiadzwa when he said the people have to be relocated to another land, away from their ancestors. Even in the bible the people of Israel when they were told by God to move to another land, they were allowed to carry their ancestors to that land. I was of the opinion that when you come up with a challenge you must come up with a solution. We must empower these people in Chiadzwa. I do not understand this is done by a Zimbabwean to a Zimbabwean. This is totally unbelievable and unacceptable.

I want to say that we have a lot of things that need to be settled before we even talk of the arrangements which we have to honour. Any arrangement that is made has to be honoured. I have a problem with people who agree today to something and the next day they change goalposts -[AN HON. MEMBER: Tazvinzwa mufundisi ]-

MRS. MATAMISA: Yes, I really have to talk about this and I am now continuing. In Chiadzwa many people were killed and some are in mass graves. We are told to shut up. How can this be if their spirits are still hovering around the area. The world must know that the diamonds in Zimbabwe (Chiadzwa) are blood diamonds. The President should have said that. I was surprised when the President talked about the Pubic Sector talking about the payroll and skills audit. How many audits have been done in this country and where are the results? This is just time consuming. I doubt if it will work anywhere. The President also talked about performance management when there are no resources to use. A person must be well resourced so that you will expect intended results from him and that is one thing which we will measure.

Land Audits for example, we had six of them and you cannot even get the feedback to the people. They are hidden to the people. People need to know the just extravaganza out of extravagance to carry out these audits of no use. The President of Zimbabwe goes on and he talks of re-invigorating the housing and social amenities. Madam Speaker and hon members let us awaken as Zimbabweans from our deep sleep. Housing and social amenities being part of our peri-urban areas, but these are the areas where there are rich arable soils. It is high time Zimbabweans think, look at the houses that were built for them after operation Murambatsvina. They are not even houses but shelters. The houses were built under Operation Garikai, but still do not have toilets nor sewer reticulation. This is what worsened the cholera epidemic in Kadoma. Madam Speaker, I think when the President addresses Parliament, he must not be day dreaming because we want reality.

The President talks about youth participation in team building and national development as one of the bills that will be tabled here. Youth participation in what? In games, killing, maiming or raping? The problem we have as Zimbabweans is that of lack of understanding the situation we are in. We talk of youth empowerment and development, yet we are talking of empowering one sector of the youths and not talking about the youths of Zimbabwe, but of ZANU PF Youths whom we know as the militia being put in the wards. They have been slotted in the wards and when teachers were not getting anything, they were. When teachers started getting the 100 dollar vouchers, they were getting it too - these are the youths we are talking about in youth participation in team building and development, yet these are the very same people that left other people with short and long sleeves during the Presidential run-off. No, Madam Speaker, I beg to differ.

The youths of Zimbabwe as of now need a real curricular that is quite different from what they were taught because there is no education from these centres. What I know is, at these centres youths are being taught fighting their fellow men. We thought our sons and daughters were being trained to grow for the protection of their elderly, instead it is the other way round. There were various rapes that were committed by these youths during the run-off - how can the same people be included in team building? I do not know because may be you will have imported them from the MDC. ZANU PF Youths are used to destroying and raping.

Madam Speaker, I will not sit until I talk on the issue of Protocols, Conventions and Charters - it is a very noble one but one wonders, someone was talking that one of them was ratified in 1990 but domestication zero. What was the problem? We are not eager to ratify and domesticate because of corruption. This is due to corruption. If you think of the women on the SADC Protocol and Gender Development - it has been left for too long. After ratification, domestication should have been done there and there but here it was just shelved because they did not want to hear the dissenting voices of women buzzing around their heads. We are saying these protocols must be respected, as a nation we must learn to respect what we have gone into. If we want to relate with SADC, or the AU. We must learn to respect and uphold as a nation. Other people are liberated but in Zimbabwe we are tied up to the neck.

I say these because one of these conventions, Bacteriological Weapons Conventions which was ratified in 1990 is not yet domesticated. Why? We are not at war with anyone. These are guns some of which were used to shoot and kill MDC Activists in 2008. The MDC meant no war but was only after free and fair elections with free participation of the people of Zimbabwe. This is one of the reasons why this convention will never be domesticated because as long as they temper with the powers of those that want to remain in power until heaven comes to earth - they will never see the light of the day.

Before I sit down let me say after the COMESA Summit, there was a lot praise sung on TV and radio on the successful hosting of COMESA. The President goes on to comment that we hosted it successfully. He talks of promoting peace and security, we must lead by example whenever we talk of such things. Yes, we are now the leaders of COMESA but we are saying is there peace in Zimbabwe when our deputy minister and members of parliament are being arrested one after another? Is there any peace or security to talk about? We must lead by example.

One person said that our destiny is in our hands. Let me say, our destruction is also in our hands. That is why I said the President wants to talk about the good things only and not about the bad things. I am saying our destruction is on our hands, and if we do not change, we will destroy everything before we know it. We often hear about the issue of sovereignty and I just want to say that there is no sovereignty here in Zimbabwe. Once we decided to use the American dollar we can not speak of sovereignty.

I would like to touch on the things that are still outstanding, as Zimbabweans we say first things must come first and vice versa. There is the issue of truth and reconciliation. Zimbabweans must speak up on the ills that have taken place here. The President of Zimbabwe goes on and he talks of re-invigorating the housing and social amenities. Madam Speaker and hon members let us awaken as Zimbabweans from our deep sleep. Housing and social amenities being part of our peri-urban areas, but these are the areas where there are rich arable soils. It is high time Zimbabweans think, look at the houses that were built for them after operation Murambatsvina. They are not even houses but shelters. The houses were built under Operation Garikai, but still do not have toilets nor sewer reticulation. This is what worsened the cholera epidemic in Kadoma. Madam Speaker, I think when the President addresses Parliament, he must not be day dreaming because we want reality.

The President talks about youth participation in team building and national development as one of the bills that will be tabled here. Youth participation in what? In games, killing, maiming or raping? The problem we have as Zimbabweans is that of lack of understanding the situation we are in. We talk of youth empowerment and development, yet we are talking of empowering one sector of the youths and not talking about the youths of Zimbabwe, but of ZANU PF Youths whom we know as the militia being put in the wards. They have been slotted in the wards and when teachers were not getting anything, they were. When teachers started getting the 100 dollar vouchers, they were getting it too - these are the youths we are talking about in youth participation in team building and development, yet these are the very same people that left other people with short and long sleeves during the Presidential run-off. No, Madam Speaker, I beg to differ.

The youths of Zimbabwe as of now need a real curricular that is quite different from what they were taught because there is no education from these centres. What I know is, at these centres youths are being taught fighting their fellow men. We thought our sons and daughters were being trained to grow for the protection of their elderly, instead it is the other way round. There were various rapes that were committed by these youths during the run-off - how can the same people be included in team building? I do not know because may be you will have imported them from the MDC. ZANU PF Youths are used to destroying and raping.

Madam Speaker, I will not sit until I talk on the issue of Protocols, Conventions and Charters - it is a very noble one but one wonders, someone was talking that one of them was ratified in 1990 but domestication zero. What was the problem? We are not eager to ratify and domesticate because of corruption. This is due to corruption. If you think of the women on the SADC Protocol and Gender Development - it has been left for too long. After ratification, domestication should have been done there and there but here it was just shelved because they did not want to hear the dissenting voices of women buzzing around their heads. We are saying these protocols must be respected, as a nation we must learn to respect what we have gone into. If we want to relate with SADC, or the AU. We must learn to respect and uphold as a nation. Other people are liberated but in Zimbabwe we are tied up to the neck.

I say these because one of these conventions, Bacteriological Weapons Conventions which was ratified in 1990 is not yet domesticated. Why? We are not at war with anyone. These are guns some of which were used to shoot and kill MDC Activists in 2008. The MDC meant no war but was only after free and fair elections with free participation of the people of Zimbabwe. This is one of the reasons why this convention will never be domesticated because as long as they temper with the powers of those that want to remain in power until heaven comes to earth - they will never see the light of the day.

Before I sit down let me say after the COMESA Summit, there was a lot praise sung on TV and radio on the successful hosting of COMESA. The President goes on to comment that we hosted it successfully. He talks of promoting peace and security, we must lead by example whenever we talk of such things. Yes, we are now the leaders of COMESA but we are saying is there peace in Zimbabwe when our deputy minister and members of parliament are being arrested one after another? Is there any peace or security to talk about? We must lead by example.

One person said that our destiny is in our hands. Let me say, our destruction is also in our hands. That is why I said the President wants to talk about the good things only and not about the bad things. I am saying our destruction is on our hands, and if we do not change, we will destroy everything before we know it. We often hear about the issue of sovereignty and I just want to say that there is no sovereignty here in Zimbabwe. Once we decided to use the American dollar we can not speak of sovereignty.

I would like to touch on the things that are still outstanding, as Zimbabweans we say first things must come first and vice versa. There is the issue of truth and reconciliation. Zimbabweans must speak up on the ills that have taken place here in order to build a better Zimbabwe. We cannot do anything before we can stand up and say the ills that happened. If it is myself who has a son who was killed just tell me how you did it and where is the body. I will cry and cry until I cry no more, then we call it a day, then we start on a new page. Before that is done we cannot just say let us forgive and forget. How can I forget when I have "short sleeves" and my neighbour there has "long sleeves". How can I forget when I have no cattle in my kraal and yet there are cattle in the next kraal.

As MDC we have too many outstanding issues pertaining to the GPA and we are saying to our counterparts in ZANU PF, this GPA we entered into, this marriage of arrangement by relatives, we want you to play your part. At the end of the day issues like the RBZ Governor and Attorney General are dealt with once and for all. We have issues of deployment of Ambassadors and Provincial Governors, what is the problem. Wherever Mugabe goes he says he is working well with Tsvangirai. How can you work well with Tsvangirai when there are all these outstanding issues.

Let me say this is a very unfortunate thing. Mr Mugabe congratulated himself on the attainment of this inclusive arrangement, but one thing that he forgot to congratulate himself on was being Head of Government, Head of State, Head of Chiefs, Commander in Chief of Armed Forces, Head of Police, Commander in Chief of Militia. If there are too many of these positions why can't he delegate? There is too much on his shoulders.

The slow pace of the constitution making process is another sign that this marriage of convenience is not a real marriage. Let me hasten to say God willing the people of Zimbabwe are dying for a new Constitution. ZANU PF want a new Constitution even if they do not want elections. So let us continue to work so that we may have a new Constitution, so that the media is not gagged, so that one day we will gain our freedom; all these freedoms we want them.

ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE DEPUTY SPEAKER

CLOSING OF CAR WINDOWS

THE DEPUTY SPEAKER : The owner of the car with registration number ABK 3680, please go and close your windows. They are not closed and I understand there are important items which can be stolen.

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER : I move that the debate do now adjourn.

Motion put and agreed to.

Debate to resume: Wednesday. 21st October 2009.

On the motion of the DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. A. MUTAMBARA), the House adjourned at Eight Minutes to Four o'clock p.m.

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