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NATIONAL ASSEMBLY HANSARD - 29 FEBRUARY 2012 VOL. 38 NO. 24

Wednesday, 29th February, 2012.

The House of Assembly met at a Quarter-past Two O'clock p.m.

 

PRAYERS

(MR. SPEAKER in the Chair)

ANNOUNCEMENTS BY MR. SPEAKER

PRIME MINISTER'S QUESTION TIME

MR. SPEAKER: I have to inform the House that the Prime Minister is unavailable today, therefore the Prime Minister's Question time will be replaced by Questions Without Notice for today.

MR. SPEAKER'S RULING: MATTER OF MR. GWARADZIMBA

MR. SPEAKER : I also have to inform the House that pursuant to the Chair's Ruling on the 4th August 2011, that there exists a prema facie of Contempt of Parliament on the matter involving Mr. Gwaradzimba and subsequent appointment of the Committee on Privileges on 24 November 2011, the Committee on Standing Rules and Orders has appointed Hon. J.M Gumbo to replace Hon. Mnangagwa.

ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE

*MR. MLAMBO: My question to the Deputy Prime Minister is on the frequency of roadblocks. Why are there so many roadblocks on our roads, because that culminates in police engaging in corrupt activities?

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): Mr. Speaker Sir, I want to thank the hon. member for that question. In fact it is a matter that Cabinet discussed on the 21st of February last week and there are two issues; one is the number of roadblocks and second is the issue of corruption at those roadblocks. From the information we received, we are very concerned about the frequency and the number of roadblocks, let us say between Bulawayo and Harare, Mutare and Harare and even within the peri-urban. So we have tasked the Minister of Home Affairs, Mr. Mohadi, to go and investigate with an obligation and a desire to reduce the number of our roadblocks in our country, we are not in a police state and hence there is no need for that number of roadblocks between Mutare and Harare.

However, more importantly, Cabinet took a decision that we do not want corruption where the police is using the roadblocks as fund-raising opportunities and hence we are even going to investigate the notion of spot fines so that if there is a problem, you go and pay through Treasury, through a mechanism where you get a receipt as opposed to spot fines, but anyway, I do not want to go ahead of myself and pre-empt the Minister of Home Affairs, but save to say, we are concerned by the frequency and number of roadblocks on our roads and more importantly, about the occurrence of corruption on those roadblocks. So I want to assure the House that we are going to address this matter and make sure that we do not prejudice our people.

*MR. M. SHOKO: Is it Government policy that the police is allowed to smash combies on the window-screens? We are seeing smashed screens of combies in Samora Machel. Thank you.

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): It can not be Government Policy to do that and where-ever it occurs, people must report that matter to the police -[laughter]- and if there is no action from the police, then we can have other mechanisms of intervention. So certainly, it is not legal, it is not Government policy, but we want to encourage the public to take these matters to police and if the police do not take action you bring them to me and I will make sure they act - [ laughter]-

MR. GWIYO: When are you going to remove the administrative decision where police is retaining all the money instead of sending the money to Treasury?

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): I have already agreed with hon. member in my previous answer, we are going to investigate the reason for the problem and I have indicated that one potential issue is the issue of spot fines, the spot fines are presenting an opportunity for fund-raising, spot fines are presenting an opportunity for corruption, but I do not want to pre-judge the work of the minister. The minister is going to investigate the issue of frequency. The minister is going to investigate the issue of corruption. Then, as part of these recommendations, may be one of the answers is to say, no more spot fines. When there is a problem, you get a ticket and you pay to Treasury. That will be an outcome which is going to be a function of research and investigation. I want to thank the honourable member for that question.

MR. DUMBU: Thank you Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Hon. Deputy Prime Minister. How and when does the government intervene in cases of workers' trade unions illegally deducting union dues from workers' salaries, and at the same time infringing government spending Act which states that the amount of union deductions which is to be deducted from an employee's salary must not exceed 1%. As I speak, workers in Triangle, Hippo Valley, Mwenezi and Mkwasine are crying foul over the illegal deduction of 2% from their salary and just this month, a flat US$5 charge was deducted without the workers concern.

MR. SPEAKER: Order honourable member. Your question is quite pertinent. However, this is a detailed question with specific examples that will require the minister responsible to investigate in order to give you a satisfactory answer. I will therefore, direct that you put your question in writing and to the relevant minister in order to get an answer.

MS. A. NDHLOVU: My question is directed to the Minister of Health and Child Welfare. Hon. Minister, media reports particularly the Herald of today, Wednesday, 29 th February 2012, reports that typhoid cases are on the increase, and it is spreading towards other parts of the country. I would like to find out from your view honourable minister how prepared government is to curb typhoid cases so that we avoid the scenario of 2008, where more than 4 000 lives were lost due to cholera. I thank you.

THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND CHILD WELFARE (DR. MADZORERA): Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. I thank the member for this very important question because typhoid is causing a bit of problems in the country right now. As you will appreciate, the question of typhoid is not purely a Minister of Health and Child Welfare issue. It is largely caused by water sanitation problems within the country and until we resolve the water and sanitation problems, it is going to be impossible to completely avoid outbreaks of diarrheal diseases and other diseases transmitted by the oraltical route of which typhoid and cholera are probably the two most vicious ones. We are working with the ministries that supply water and sanitation. We meet and we show them the challenges and I believe they are working on that. These are the Ministries of Water Resources Development Management and Ministry of Local Government. From a Ministry of Health and Child Welfare's point of view, we are there to treat cases that arise from this failure to supply water to people and we have been very successful so far. We are happy with the support that we are getting from Government in terms of the supply of medication and so forth. Our partners are also coming in very handy to augment the efforts of curbing it. We are going to be carrying out massive campaigns. These campaigns are aimed at containing the typhoid through educating the people and increasing awareness. That is what we can do from the Ministry of Health point of view. We are going to get increased support and I am glad Treasury has in fact promised to support our intensive campaigns within the identified 30 districts that we say at the moment are potentially susceptible to outbreaks. So, that is what we are doing. So far we have had only one confirmed death on typhoid out of thousands of cases. That to you should indicate that on the treatment side, we are doing fairly well. Thank you.

MR. CROSS: My question is directed to the Minister of Agriculture. I think this year we have quite a reasonable quality tobacco crop. We also have a fairly large cotton crop on the ground. I would like to know because I am concerned about the contractual nature of relationships between financiers and the farmers as to what measures the government is taking to protect the interest of farmers in terms of influencing the prices that are paid for particularly cotton in this coming winter season.

THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE, MECHANISATION AND IRRIGATION DEVELOPMENT (DR. MADE): I want to thank the honourable member for the question on the price of cotton. As the honourable member knows, on the contracted cotton crop, the farmers and the contractor would have agreed a certain price. The major born of contention has always been that the contracting part does not disclose the cost of the input. So, this is where Government has moved in to say that the inputs price, must be pre-determined and included in the contract so that at least the farmer knows that a bag of fertiliser chemicals will be costing this much. Obviously when it comes to the final price, it is based on the quality and on the international prices. Also this is where government comes in to teach the farmers, give them information that the preparation of the crop should not be mixed. There should be no foreign matter in there so that the farmer takes the better price as well as a genuine weight to the contracting part.

So with the intensification of that extension information, the situation is becoming better. However, for this season, we are yet to see whether reality will materialise on the ground. I can assure you honourable member that again the Agriculture Marketing Authority (AMA) as a sub-committee on cotton will be able to intervene if there are any challenges relating to that. I think you have also seen that a lot of preparatory work has been done with the tobacco farmers. The situation is much better. So that pre-season intervention, I think has paid and I must say again honourable Speaker, the cotton crop is high in terms of the hectorage planting. We are to see the final product. Thank you.

 

*MRS. ZINYEMBA: Thank you Mr. Speaker. My question is directed to the Minister of Finance, Mr. Biti and the Minister of Agriculture, Dr. Made. Are the ministers aware that there are big companies like Mazowe Citrus Estate who are not giving workers their dues which is leading to two thousand workers spending up to six months without being paid and their children not attending school. I would like to know how long it will take GMB to pay such big companies?

*THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (DR. MADE): Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the hon. member for raising such a pertinent question pertaining to GMB not paying. We are aware of that the farmers who sent their produce to GMB are yet to be paid. We have agreed with the Minister of Finance that they are now going to be paid their dues.

MR. MADZIMURE: My question is directed to the Deputy Minister of Justice. Minister, what is your ministry's policy regarding the relaxation of bail conditions for suspected criminals. For example, the withdrawal of the former ZIFA Chief Executive Officer's passport two weeks ago and only this last week, she applied and was given the passport back. She travelled to where the suspects are - in South Africa where our players are playing and also in Dubai where the whole syndicate was being facilitated. Was there any money that changed hands for the release of the passport?

*THE DEPUTY MINISTER OF JUSTICE (SENATOR GUTU): Thank you Mr. Speaker. To answer the hon. member, as you know the Ministry of Justice is only relevant when it comes to policy direction and does not necessarily take part in the nitty-gritties of prosecution. Be that as it may, it is obviously important for the justice delivery system that people who are facing serious charges, particularly, charges of the nature that the hon. member has just raised should obviously be dealt with in such a manner that the public's trust in the whole justice delivery system is retained and that there is no suspicion.

More-so on a reasonable basis that the course of justice is being perverted. I can assure the hon. member that the Attorney-General's Office is responsible for prosecution as you know, in terms of the Constitution of this country as it is. We as the ministry do not have any mandate to give direction/orders to the Prosecution Department on how to deal with issues of bail, admission of people on bail, relaxation of bail or denial of bail, but I can assure the hon. member that we are mindful of the need to retain confidence in the justice delivery system. I will take it up with the relevant authorities in the Attorney-General's Office to ensure that whatever is seen to be happening is something that does not pervert the justice delivery system. Thank you.

MRS. SHIRICHENA: My question is directed to the Minister of ICT, Hon. Chamisa. May you inform the House when you will avail laptops for Members of Parliament as per your promise?

MR. SPEAKER: Hon. member, that is not a policy question but I will however, allow the Minister to respond to the question.

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY (MR. CHAMISA): Thank you Mr. Speaker. In fact, I thought that I was the Minister of ICT not ITC, but I want to honestly thank the hon. member for such a valid and legitimate question. We are aware that our Members of Parliament are supposed to be equipped with the gadgets of communication, they are supposed to be given the tools of communication.

In fact, Hon. Speaker, we have introduced now - in the world of communication a new lingual or new jargon where we have what we call digital natives and digital immigrants. If you are a digital native it means that you were born after technology and when we say after technology we mean communication technology in the context of Internet or your cellphone, but if you are a digital immigrant, you are actually the one born before technology. We would want to make sure that Members of Parliament are actually digital natives. It is consistent with that dimension that we are very hopeful and very happy that resources have been allocated through the Minister of Finance for our Members of Parliament. What is now left are the logistical issues.

It is my wish that this side of the quarter of the year, we will be able to deliver so that Members of Parliament are able to campaign better, communicate better and represent the people better. Thank you.

MS. MANGAMI: My question is directed to the Minister of Health. What is your Ministry's policy regarding the regulation of user fees in clinics and hospitals?

THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND CHILD WELFARE (DR. MADZORERA): As hon members will remember, sometimes in the 1980s and 1990s, we had abolished the user fees as a country. But, user fees came back through the back door, through donor funded programmes pushed particularly by the big boys, the World Bank, IMF and so forth and we know the devastating results that it had.

The Government still has a policy of free health care for pregnant women, children under 5, the elderly above 65 and I know some of us here qualify. Then chronic diseases like HIV, TB and diabetes and hypertension. Those kinds of chronic illnesses, they will be treated free at our institutions but here is a problem. During our era of hyperinflation, the policy was set aside because hospitals were closing because there was no funding. We are working very hard to ensure that we enforce this policy by putting together funds. Members will be aware that we have put together health transition fund specifically to remove user fees on these selected categories and we hope that in the next month or two, we will be able to enforce this policy. Thank you.

MR. CHIKWINYA: My question is directed to the Minister of Finance. What is Government's policy with regards to industries especially so where Government has shares which are now facing viability challenges to the effects of closing down simply because Government has not owned up its debt which is now amounting to the fact that these companies are now closing with particular reference to Sable Chemicals?

THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (MR. BITI): I want to thank the hon. member for his question. We have a challenge with Government domestic debt in the country and for 2011, our Government debt to the local economy was in excess of US$300 million. This debt consisted of about $30 million or so that we owed to ZESA for electricity consumed by Government departments and institutions like the army and the police.

This debt consisted of about US$20 million in respect of debt that we owed to the Zimbabwe National Water Authority (ZINWA). This debt also consisted of debt, a credible amount of US$60 million that we owed to the fixed telephone provider in the country. Then about US$30 million that we owed to Net One, the (0712). This debt also consisted of US$34 million that we owed to farmers in respect of maize delivery of about US$24 million and wheat delivery of about US$7 million. This debt also consisted of about US$60 million that we owed to local authorities.

In fact, some local authorities claim that we owe them more, for instance the City of Harare claims that we owe them US$145 million. Part of our problem last year was that we had the un-budgeted US$400 million increase in wages and that basically meant that we crowded out our capacity to pay other things in preference to paying the non discretionary challenge of wages and that resulted in the Government performing at a rate of 38%.

With regards to Sable Chemicals, we actually do not owe Sable Chemicals anything. However, given the centrality of Sable Chemicals to the farming industry, Sable Chemicals makes the major ingredients that are necessary for fertiliser and fertiliser is at the epicenter of the agricultural economy that we have. The Government decided to subsidise Sable Chemicals. So, it is not a question of us owing them but it is a gratuitous arrangement that we had.

The way it worked is that, in 2009 and 2010, we agreed as Government to pay to ZESA US$11 million as a Government subsidy. The way it was going to work was that, ZESA would sell electricity at the price of 3 cents a kilowatt, which is a subsidised price and the difference now between the 8.6 which was the going price of electricity and 3 cents. Who would take care of it in the sum of US$11 million? In return, because we give money to ZESA in terms of grant payments, ZESA would then write off that US$11 million assistance with the Government grant what we would have given.

This was the arrangement when Minister Mudzuri was still the Minister. Now, zvinhu zvachinja. ZESA now wants us to actually pay physical cash in respect of this subsidy. So the arrangement that has been agreed for 2012 is that because ZESA owes Government money, ZESA will set-off US$11 million for 2012 vis-a-vis our debt, what they owe to us and there should be no reason why Sable Chemicals should be closed because for 2012 we have reached an agreement.

What we have not agreed, as an agreement, is what happened in 2011. There is a dispute right now or discussion in Government on whether that existed in 2009 and 2010, should apply or the due arrangement where we actually pay physical cash or it is written off should be applied. So, there is no reason why Sable Chemicals should be closed. We have agreed that we give US$11 million subsidy and ZESA would set-off against amounts that it owes to the Ministry of Finance. I thank you.

MR. DZIRUTWE: My question is directed to the DPM. In the past month or so, there has been news about the construction of this hotel by the wetlands at the National Sports Stadium and EMA has directed the stopping of that progress. What is Government's position towards people who ignore directives from EMA and continue construction?

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): EMA regulations and EMA laws must be observed, that is our policy. On the specific issue that you need clarity, I think the Minister is most qualified to give detailed responses. As a matter of policy, our laws must be respected, it does not matter who you are.

MS. D. SIBANDA: I have been holding on to my question for a long time now. Since the Minister of Transport is nowhere to be found, I will then direct my question to the leader of the House the Deputy Prime Minister. Is it Government policy that a parastatal like NRZ would function without a board? Are you aware that as from November, they have not received their salaries, November, December, January and now we are at the end of February?

MR. SPEAKER: I will only allow the DPM to respond to the first part. DPM you may ignore the second part of the question.

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): As a matter of Government policy, we believe that our parastatals must deliver value. GMB, NRZ and ZESA all these institutions which are State Enterprises, must deliver value to the people of Zimbabwe. That is why we have a Minister of State Enterprises and also there are line Ministers who are responsible for specific parastatals like the Ministry of Transport is responsible for NRZ. In these institutions, GMB, NRZ and ZESA, we want to have good corporate governance. We are in the process of ensuring that there is good corporate governance in all these parastatals. The Minister of Parastatals has an overall function of supervising and ensuring that the principles of good corporate governance is adhered to. One of those things is to have a functional board.

In terms of the details of the specific issues of NRZ, I will leave it to the Minister of Transport to address that. We believe that all our parastatals must have valid boards and those boards must practice good corporate governance. I would advise the hon. member to put her question in writing so that the Minister of Transport and also the Minister of Parastatals can give her a much more detailed response and to answer the second part of her question.

MR. BEREMAURO: My question is directed to the Minister of ICT. What is the Government policy on provision of fixed telephone land lines which are now non-existent in rural areas but only available in urban areas?

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY (MR. CHAMISA): I am sure you are aware that the ideal situation in our country is to have at least two fixed telephone companies; companies that provide the fixed lines. You are aware of the situations to do with the Tele-Access by Daniel Shumba which is still before the Cabinet for consideration, I am sure it is about the issue of licensing and all. We just have Tel One which is responsible for the land lines.

What we are also realising is that it is becoming impractical and technologically logically is not being extracted from continuing with fixed lines in areas where you can actually lip frog our technologies. Our land lines constitute what is called legacy infrastructure but as we are speaking we have realised that we are able to get to areas better and more through the mobile telephone as compared to the fixed. We continue with the legacy infrastructure because it is still used in Europe, USA and in other countries but we are focusing more on investment into the mobile telephones.

We have issues around Tel One in terms of its management and capacity. We are trying to look for partners for Tel One and also trying to look for the necessary commercialisation models so that we are able to make the maximum out of it as a company that is owned by Government. In terms of access which is our focus, we are not going to limit ourselves to issues of land lines, when land lines are actually expensive and more laborious in terms of getting the service to the consumer.

MR. HLONGWANE: My supplementary question is with regards to getting a partner for both Tel One and Net One. What challenges is Government facing with regards securing partners for those companies so that they can move forward?

MR. CHAMISA: Thank you Hon. Hlongwane for this question. In terms of Net One, we are currently, as Government, negotiating with a number of potential partners with a view to securing a win-win situation and a deal that is going to benefit the country, the people of Zimbabwe especially the consumers. As I am speaking, a lot of work has been done in terms of due diligence in terms of making sure that we also do a thorough job to assess what is going to give us a maximum benefit. A lot of suitors have actually come forward to show their interest, but we know that when you have a beautiful girl, who is probably not clothed well, washed and bathed well, you need to do a little bit more to make sure that proper things are done. I am happy to say that we are doing what ever it takes to make our company lucrative so that we come to a deal that will benefit Zimbabwe. We are making a lot of progress and we are hoping to announce the way forward very soon once the subcommittee of Cabinet that deals with commercialisation finalises this.

MR. MUDARIKWA: Supplementary Mr. Speaker, I want to find out why there is no national roaming in this country and yet we have international roaming?

MR. CHAMISA: I am sure Hon. Mudarikwa knows that, when I addressed the Committee I actual gave him in advance, that we are doing a lot of work to make sure that we switch on the national roaming. What is termed national roaming is the ability for our various subscribers and users to migrate from one platform, that is Econet, to a Net One platform without necessarily having three different sim cards. So if you just have one sim card, you enter one and you enter all, if you access one you access all. That is possible in other countries where there is an exchange port within that country. We are currently working with POTRAZ to make sure that is a reality, it is a policy issue and as Government we have already adopted that, we are going to move in that direction. National roaming is going to help people in terms of migrating the mindset, competition on infrastructure, to competition of services. As it is, people are competing on infrastructure so they have been very reluctant when it comes to the need to move on to the platform of national roaming. However, I am glad to say I have good news for the honourable Members of Parliament that it is again one of these policy prescriptions that are in the oven. We hope to ultimately release this as a product. I must say this is the direction we are taking. We are insisting more on infrastructure, once we get our infrastructure running, at least that route should have fibre cables, under sea cables and the rest will follow. The dictum has been seek ye first in communication, the kingdom of infrastructure, everything else follows, then part of the national roaming is going to follow. Thank you very much.

MR. SANSOLE: In the absence of the Minister of Transport, I will direct my question to the Deputy Prime Minister. What is the justification for motor vehicles to change number plates each time they change ownership. It is the owners who have changed, so why does the vehicle has to change its identity at a cost of $150 for a set of number plates whose cost of production is $20? Thank you.

MR. SPEAKER: Your question is highly technical and I suggest that you put that question in writing in order to get response from the relevant minister.

MR. TACHIONA: My question is directed to the Minister of Agriculture. What is the policy regarding the importation of potato seedlings from neighbouring countries?

THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE, MECHANISATION AND IRRIGATION DEVELOPMENT (DR. MADE): The policy of Government is that we do not import potatoes in terms of the crop. However, depending on the shortages, we do allow importation but the necessary regulations must be complied with. Thank you.

MR. TACHIONA: Minister, how come the consignment that was denied at Beitbridge Boarder Post was allowed at Plumtree Boarder Post, if the policy does not allow?

DR. MADE: Mr Speaker, that is a very specific issue that I can look into. I would not have the details.

MR. CHINYADZA: My question is directed to the Minister of Agriculture. I would like to know whether the minister is aware of the widespread abuse of inputs at GMB and whether there is policy and procedure to follow up on the wrong doers and why infact it has pepertuated for quite some time now.

THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (DR. MADE): We have a very clear policy on access to inputs and if there are any specific cases that you are aware of, you can bring them to my attention and we will be able to deal with that.

+MR. F.M. SIBANDA: Is there a policy to recruit uniformed forces, that is people like police, soldiers and prison officers, because Government has no money to pay them. What is the policy regarding that issue?

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): I think the Minister of Finance has been very clear that we have very limited fiscus space and hence we must eat what we kill but at the same time, we have a country to run. We need a Parliament, we need Cabinet Ministers, civil servants, we need teachers in the country, we need the army, police force and prison officers. Therefore, what we will try to do is to make sure we live within the means of our resources. We cannot do without the army, we cannot do without the police force, we cannot do without prisons. What we will try to do is to make sure we control and manage recruitment but at the end of the day, we are going to recruit and we will have a Parliament and we will try to make sure we live within our means. I thank you.

MR. F.M. SIBANDA: Would this not be detrimental to the nation where we train more than what we can afford? How can we prevent armed robberies when we train more soldiers getting peanuts? Would this not necessitate armed robberies in the society?

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): I think what we need to do Mr. Speaker is to understand the issue of right sizing. The issue is to say what size of army do we need in this country, what size of police force, the size of our prisons and prison officers in terms of numbers so that we work within the limits of our resources. We are not suggesting hiring more than we need, we are suggesting that we need a certain size, the right size of army, the right size of police force and we must work hard to grow this economy so that we are productive and we have resources, we need to pay our civil servants, to pay the army and police force. We are responsible people and we are not going to hire beyond our means but at the same time, there is a basic requirement to ensure the security of our nation. Thank you.

MR. MAHLANGU: My question is directed to the Ministry of Agriculture, Mechanisation and Irrigation Development, Hon. Made. Minister, it is on record that in Matabeleland, it is not raining, we are not getting enough rains. What measures is the ministry taking to ensure that there is no drought?

THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE, MECHANISATION AND IRRIGATION DEVELOPMENT (DR. MADE): I would like to thank the hon. member for raising that issue. Indeed, it is correct that almost across the country, the rainfall pattern this year is very deceptive and in particular, the southern parts of the country. The rains are not doing well for the crops as well as the livestock. Obviously, the approach should be to intensify water reticulation, not only for irrigation, but also for livestock as well as the human resource. That is the first point which is a medium to long term approach. As it relates to food, we have to deliver food to those areas and that programme has started and it needs to be intensified.

*MR. CHIMBETETE: My question is directed to the Minister of Finance. I would like to thank you for the US$15 000 that was given to Members of Parliament. The problem that we are facing is that our cars were damaged during the COPAC outreach - [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections] -

MR. SPEAKER: Order, order, - [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections]- Order honourable members. - [MRS. MAHOKA: Arikubvunza dondo, gara pasi] - Order, I have recognised the honourable member to ask a question, it is only myself who can tell him whether he is in order or out of order - [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections] - Order, order.

Questions Without Notice interrupted by MR. SPEAKER in terms of Standing Order No. 33.

ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS WITH NOTICE

BUILDING GRANTS FOR SCHOOLS

6. MS. MANGAMI asked the Minister of Education, Sport, Arts and Culture to inform the House:

(i) What happened to the building grants which used to be given to schools; and

(ii) if the same grants could be extended to primary schools.

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION, SPORT, ARTS AND CULTURE (SENATOR COLTART): The Government, for many years has prioritised the development of education in this country. It allocates a lot of funds from the national budget to education, part of which is used for the construction and rehabilitation of schools in three different categories.

· Public Sector Investment Programme (PSIP) for the construction of Government schools

· Rehabilitation funds for the refurbishing of run down schools and

· Building grant-in-aid for the construction of non Government schools.

All these projects are monitored by the Ministry of Education, Sport, Arts and Culture, the Ministry of Finance, the Ministry of Public Works and audited by the Comptroller and Auditor General's Office.

The purpose of the building grants-in-aid is to give financial assistance to non-Government schools, both primary and secondary that are undertaking construction projects at their sites. The building grant-in-aid covers the construction of virtually any structures that are essential for creating a conducive teaching and learning environment at the school, be they classrooms, administration blocks, ablution blocks, laboratories, teachers' houses, dormitories and even the reticulation and connection of water and electricity. The responsible authority applies for the grant and this should be done through the respective Provincial Education Director. Therefore the construction of schools that benefit from the building grant-in-aid is constantly monitored by the Ministry of Education, Sport, Arts and Culture to ensure that funds allocated are properly used by the responsible authorities.

Let me make two comments in closing Mr Speaker. The first comment is to stress that these are both for primary and secondary schools, which answers the second aspect of your question. The final point I want to make is to reiterate the comments that I have made outside this House. In last year's Budget we were allocated US$66 million for non salary expenditure. We received US$14.8 million, accordingly, there was no money available for any building either in grants or special grants for education. We hope that this will not happen again this year.

IMPROVEMENT OF THE STATE OF HEALTH DELIVERY SYSTEM AT MPILO AND CENTRAL HOSPITALS

9. MR. MAHLANGU asked the Minister of Health and Child Welfare to inform the House:

(i) what strides the Ministry has taken to ensure that Mpilo and Central Hospitals improve the state of health delivery system which of late has been a cause of concern for Bulawayo residents and those in surrounding areas;

(iii) what the Ministry is doing to curb corruption which has seriously affected the state of delivery system in the two hospitals; and

(iii) when the Ministry is going to start building a third referral hospital for Bulawayo which it promised ten years ago since the current two hospitals Mpilo and Central are failing to cope with the increasing number of patients.

THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND CHILD WELFARE (DR. MADZORERA): The following measures have been taken to ensure improved health delivery at Mpilo Central Hospital. Hospital Management boards have been established in terms of the Health Services Act. Their job is to oversee the functioning of the hospitals. They have proved to be a very effective tool in the management of hospitals. The ministry is currently also interviewing candidates to get a new CEO for Mpilo Central Hospital and so from a management point of view, I think Mpilo is doing well. The Launch of the Health Transition fund will augment meager disbursements from Treasury. Adequate funding will ensure availability of drugs, sundries and equipment for an efficient health delivery system. Adequate funding provides for an improved working environment and improved health service delivery. Mpilo and United Hospitals are also set to benefit.

Availability of human resources has significantly improved following the introduction of the retention allowances. The health sector has seen over 80% of the health workers return to work, with some even returning from the diaspora. The establishment is now full, and needs expansion. Mpilo and United Bulawayo Hospitals now have a full staff compliment. It is acknowledged that the establishment needs to be reviewed to meet the increasing demands for health care provision at the two hospitals. In this regard, the Health Service Board has requested for a review of the establishment for the health sector, including Mpilo and the United Bulawayo Hospitals. Treasury response and concurrence is awaited.

There are other factors that have contributed and played a role in improved health service delivery, and these include the targeted approach. This has resulted in the provision of funding to selected institutions for refurbishment. Mpilo and United Bulawayo Hospitals have benefitted from the programme. Infrastructure at these two hospitals has been refurbished. This has enhanced service provision. DFID sponsored works at Mpilo.

▪ What the Ministry is doing to curb corruption which has seriously affected the state of delivery system in the two hospitals;

The Ministry of Health and Child Welfare will acknowledge that corruption was rife in the Ministry. This was exacerbated by infinitesimally low salaries which were awarded to the health workers. In a bid to curtail and reduce corruption the Ministry engaged the donor community to devise the retention allowance program. Health workers now receive top ups on their salaries. The introduction of the retention allowances has seen a reduction on the levels of corruption within the sector.

Studies have been conducted and there have also been some publications on issues surrounding corruption. One such publication is "Corruption burns Universal Access." Recommendations were made therein. Some of these recommendations have been implemented with positive results.

The office of the Auditor and Comptroller General has also conducted some audits in most of our public institutions. Their findings have resulted in the culprits being arrested. Such measures have acted as deterrent on would be transgressors, hence militating and curbing corruption. Special internal audits have been done at Mpilo Hospital and other hospitals are due for audit, as corruption is suspected at many of our institutions as a vestige of the hyperinflation era.

When the Ministry is going to start building a third referral hospital for Bulawayo which it promised ten years ago since the current two hospitals Mpilo and Central are failing to cope with the increasing number of patients .

The Ministry has no intention of building a third referral hospital in Bulawayo. However, the intention has always been to build district hospitals in the cities to ease congestion at the referral hospitals. The Ministry of Health recently launched the National Health Strategy 2009 to 2013. The "Government of Zimbabwe, in line with the primary Health Care Strategy of organising services, aims at ensuring the provision of quality and safe health services that meet the needs of the people through a network of health facilities". Patients with more complex problems are expected to be referred up the referral chain. In this regard the public health delivery system consists of four levels of care: primary, secondary, tertiary and central levels. In line with this structure, Bulawayo city needs district hospitals. The district hospitals provide referral and support to the network of clinics and Rural Health Centres in the district. Hospitals refer to provincial hospitals. It has been observed that Bulawayo and indeed all the cities do not have district hospitals. To de-congest the Central Hospitals, there is need for the construction of district hospitals, in all the city centres to de-congest the referral hospitals. The construction of district hospitals will commence subject to availability of funds. In this regard, the Ministry is considering constructing district hospitals, to de-congest the central hospital in Bulawayo and Harare.

ACHIEVEMENT OF MILLENIUM DEVELOPMENT GOALS NO 4, 5 AND 6

MR. MAHLANGU asked the Minister of Health and Child Welfare to inform the house

i) What the Ministry has so far done to ensure that it achieves the Millennium Development Goals 4, 5 and 6 which relate to reducing child mortality, improving maternal health and combating HIV and AIDS, malaria and other diseases by 2015.

ii) The challenges the Ministry is facing in achieving these MDGs

iii) What the Ministry is doing to overcome these challenges and ensuring that these MDGs are achievable by 2015.

MDG Goal 4: Reduce Child Mortality

Zimbabwe successfully applied for the introduction of new vaccines for GAVI, namely pneumococcal and Rota Virus. The pneumococcal vaccine will be introduced in the country in 2012. Immunization outreach activities have been revitalized throughout the country with partner support. This has increased immunization coverage to 97%. The Ministry of Health has also begun engaging the vaccine objectors. The government also continues to prioritize human resource development in EPI, with special emphasis on vaccine management to ensure potent vaccines are administered to recipients. The Ministry has also strengthened outreach and active search on surveillance activities. Furthermore there has been health worker sensitization and capacity building in disease surveillance. It should be pointed out that the following has been done to also ensure attainment of MDG goals by 2015:

a) increasing coverage of high impact interventions.

b) strengthening supervision, monitoring and evaluation of child survival interventions.

c) establishing and sustaining partnerships for implementation of child survival interventions.

d) strengthening multi-sectoral collaboration in child health, growth and development.

e) nutrition program

MDG GOAL 5: Improve Maternal Health

The Ministry of Health and Child Welfare is implementing a range of life saving interventions aimed at reducing child mortality and improving maternal health (MDG 4 and 5). The interventions include among others, the revitalization of maternity waiting homes; supply of blood and related products to pregnant women in need, capacity building of health workers in life saving skills; strengthening of patient referral systems; procurement and distribution of maternal and newborn health commodities and building capacity of health workers to provide youth friendly services. The Ministry is also implementing the Campaign for an Accelerated Reduction in Maternal Mortality in Africa (CARMMA) which was launched in 2010.

HFF + $10 MILLION BUDGET SUPPORT

a) Revitalization of the Maternity Waiting Homes

In 2010, the Ministry developed National operational Guidelines on maternity waiting homes, and recommissioned the revitalization program to improve institutional deliveries as well as increase skilled attendance at birth. The target was to revitalize at least one maternity Waiting Home per district, in the initial phase of the program. A total of 106 homes have so far been revitalized, 62 in 2010 and 44 in 2011.

b) BLOOD Coupon Programme

About 14% of all maternal deaths in Zimbabwe are due to post partum hemorrhage. Since 2010, the Ministry has been implementing a Blood Coupon\Voucher Programme to improve the supply of affordable blood and related products to women in need. Currently all provincial and Central Hospitals are receiving blood coupons for use in maternity wards. Evidence shows that there is high level utilization (above 70%) of the blood coupons in referral hospitals and mostly at the quaternary level of care. The programme has been scaled up to every district hospital and for all emergency (including non maternity) cases following additional financial support from partners.

c) Training Health Service Providers in Life Saving Skills and Cervical Cancer Screening

The Ministry is also building the capacity of health workers to provide Emergency Obstetric and Neonatal Care, perform Manual vacuum Aspirations and to screen for cervical cancer. In 2010, about 407 health workers, an average of 40 per province were trained in Emergency Obstetric and Neonatal Care. A standard Emergency Obstetric Neonatal Care Manual and protocols were also developed. About 28,000 of the protocols were reproduced and distributed to all facilities across the nation. Kangaroo Care Training Materials are currently under review.

In September 2011, two cervical cancer screening sites were established in Bulawayo and Masvingo, and to date more than 5000 women have been screened at the two sites. Eight health workers have so far been trained in screening for cancer, and plans are under way to train another 8 by December 2011. IEC materials for cancer screening and monitoring tools have been developed and reproduced.

d) Programme to strengthen transport and communication and to improve patient referrals

The Ministry is repairing, maintaining and servicing ambulances at District Hospitals. Since 2010, more than 10 ambulances at selected district hospitals have been repaired and recently, with support from partners, the Ministry procured ambulances for the hard to reach areas. The Ministry has also piloted motor cycle ambulances in Zvimba district. The pilot project ended in September 2010, and evaluations are underway, to assess the acceptability, appropriateness, sustainability and operational viability of the motor cycle ambulances.

e) Adolescent Sexual and Reproductive Health

A National Adolescent Sexual and Reproductive Health Strategy 2010-2015 was recently launched to guide the provision of youth friendly Sexual and Reproductive Health Services to young people in the country. To date more than 259 health facility based youth friendly corners and 50 community centres have been established in line with the minimum requirements defined by the Adolescent Sexual and Reproductive Health strategy. A standard National Adolescent Sexual Reproductive Health Training Manual for Health Service providers is currently being developed based mainly through a consultative review process, about 150 health workers were trained in the provision of youth friendly services in 2010, peer educator package was procured and distributed; and more than 78 peer educators were trained. Plans are underway to establish more youth friendly corners and to train more health workers in the provision of youth friendly sexual Reproductive Health Services.

f) Procurement and distribution of Maternal and Newborn Health Commodities

The Ministry is also improving the availability of equipment and drugs for maternal and newborn health services in health facilities through the procurement of essential drugs, equipment and other commodities. In 2010 and 2011, the Ministry with support from partners procured the following: drugs and related supplies, medical and laboratory equipment, midwifery kits, delivery beds, equipment to train health workers to resuscitate newborn and LEEP machines. Plans are underway to develop a national Reproductive Health Commodity Security Strategy.

g) Family Planning, Antenatal and Post Natal Care Services

Family planning, drugs and other health related commodities are being distributed to facilities through the Zimbabwe national Family Planning Council Delivery Top Up Programme. Health Workers are also being trained in the use of long term family planning methods. The Ministry and the Zimbabwe National Family Planning Council have developed standard family planning guidelines which are currently being printed for distribution nationwide.

h) Rolling out of CARMMA in Zimbabwe

In June 2010, Zimbabwe launched the Campaign on Accelerated reduction of Maternal Mortality in Africa. The main objective of this programme is to accelerate the availability and universally accessible quality sexual and reproductive health services that are critical for the reduction of maternal mortality, through coordination and effective implementation of existing plans and strategies.

The Ministry is also implementing a National Sexual Reproductive Health and HIV Linkages Programme. The objective of the program is to facilitate the provision of integrated Sexual Reproductive Health and HIV services from policy level down to the health facility level. This project has been commissioned both regionally and internally.

I) Research, Monitoring and Evaluation

The Ministry has commissioned various studies on maternal and new born health issues in the recent past, e.g Obstetric Fistula, Sexual Reproductive Health and HIV linkages. Findings from the studies have been used for evidence based programming. The challenges being faced are:

a) limited financial support to implement interventions

b) Dwindled human resource base due to staff attrition

c) Program monitoring and referral activities being hampered by transport and communication shortages.

d) User fees which are beyond the reach of many Zimbabweans.

What the Ministry has done to overcome these challenges: Maternal Mortality

The Ministry recently launched the Health Transition Fund aimed at strengthening health financing, health worker retention, mentoring and training for maternal and newborn services to address the issue of user fees and increase financial support to implement interventions.

HEALTH DELIVERY SYSTEM

11. MR. JIRI asked the Minister of Health and Child and Welfare, to explain why:

i) Chivhu District Hospital has no casualty department;

ii) There is still a shortage of doctors;

iii) Nharira Hospital has not been refurbished and what the Ministry's plans are, regarding refurbishment of this hospital; and

iv) Private health providers are charging exorbitant fees for X-rays, Blood Tests and refuse to accept Premier Medical Aid Services membership cards.

THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND CHILD WELFARE (DR. MADZORERA): Chivhu General Hospital has structures of a rural hospital and yet it is classified as a General Hospital. Chivhu hospital was constructed in the colonial era and has no proper casualty department. According to the Ministry's development plan, Chivhu hospital is to be upgraded to a standard General Hospital with the casualty department included. The ministry has not been embarking on new capital projects as the resources are not adequate and hence concentrating with on-going projects and rehabilitation/refurbishment of health facilities which are in a state of disrepair due to lack of maintenance. Once resources are available to embark on new projects, Chivhu becomes a priority due to its location. As we might be aware, the Harare-Beitbridge highway is highly prone to Road Traffic Accidents (RTA) and the victims are usually attended to, at this hospital. It is imperative that the hospital be upgraded soon.

ii) There is a shortage of doctors at Chivhu Hospital

There is a freeze on the recruitment of public workers. Certain procedures have to be adhered to, before recruitment to fill in the vacant posts, within the public service. However, these procedures take inordinately long to finalize. This involves seeking Treasury concurrence, and clearance before the doctor is on the pay roll. Reports received are to the effect that sometimes these processes take three to four months, before finalization.

In 2011, doctors were deployed to the districts. Due to the delays in finalizing these processes occasioned by the need to meet the requirements, most doctors found alternative employment. By the time concurrence was granted by Treasury, the doctors were in gainful employment elsewhere without the public service, hence the shortage. This scenario is not unique to Mashonaland East, but to all the provinces. In this regard, there is an acute shortage of doctors in all the provinces. It is recommended that the freeze on the posts within the Health Sector be lifted, to enable recruitment, to fill in the vacant posts within the health sector. Shortages of manpower comprises health service delivery. A former director of health once said "health is not everything but without health, everything is nothing". That means we cannot put health care into the same category with other workers because once we lose our health, even those with PhDs will be buried underground. So let us take care of it.

iii) Nharira Hospital has not been furbished and what are the Ministry's plans regarding refurbishment of this hospital?

Nharira Rural Hospital requires a major face-lift. The ministry is currently doing refurbishment of district and rural hospitals under the Public Sector Investment Programme. However, the funds are limited such that one or two hospitals are picked per province. Last year Chivhu General Hospital benefited from this vote and Nharira is within the same Chikomba districts. As resources are availed, the refurbishment of Nharira Rural Hospital will be undertaken as the buildings are now dilapidated.

The last question is private health providers are charging exorbitant fees, blood tests and refuse to accept Premier Medical Aid Cards. We are looking into the issue of regulating the medical aid societies more seriously. They must not refuse medical aid cards that are valid but we need the new Act to deal with this issue of medical aid societies that are self regulating. Therefore, we will be bringing before the House, hopefully this year a new Medical Aid Societies Bill for consideration.

MR. JIRI: The Minister, in his answer to the question before us, he dwells much on the freeze to medical doctors and nurses particularly. What steps has he taken as the Minister to convince Cabinet or the relevant Ministry as Treasury that his case be considered separately so that their freeze is lifted?

DR. MADZORERA: The employer of health workers is the Health Services Board and it has been seized with this matter and we have made a lot of representations to the Ministry of Finance. They are aware of our plight and will continue putting on that pressure. The answer lies in lifting the freeze partially and only in critical skills. We understand the problems with that discriminatory approach and the anxieties of the Ministry of Finance in treating some workers preferentially to others. As we said, health is not everything, but without health, everything else is nothing. So, we are working on it and we hope to convince not just Cabinet, but also the Ministry of Finance to prioritize health care workers.

RELEVANCE TO THE RMB

15. MS MANGAMI asked the Minister of Public Service to inform the House:

i) How long one is expected to remain in an acting capacity before confirmation can be done in the Ministry of Education for example; and

ii) The relevance of the RBM in view of the current demoralisation of workers who are not rewarded for their performance.

THE MINISTER OF PUBLIC SERVICE (MRS. MATIBENGA) : Teachers in the Ministry of Education, Sports, Arts and Culture are allowed to act for two terms while members in the rest of the Public Service members act for 184 days. Any extension beyond the stipulated period is supposed to be sanctioned by the Public Service Commission. This is as stated in Section 27 (7) (a) and (b) of the Public Service Regulations, 2000.

There is no guarantee that a member acting in a particular post will be substantively appointed or confirmed in that post. This is as per Section 18(a) of the Public Service Act Chapter 16:04 and Sections 11(1) and 11(5) of the Public Service Regulations, 2000. The Public Service Act states, when considering candidates for appointment to promotion, the Commission shall have regard to the merit principle, that is, the principle that preference should be given to the person who, in the Commission's opinion, is the most efficient and suitable for appointment to the office, post or grade concerned. On consideration for promotion, a member is supposed to undergo a competitive selection procedure.

In terms of Sections 11(5) of the Public Service Regulations, 2000 no member shall be entitled as a right to promotion. On the relevance of Results Based Management (RBM), in view of the current dollarisation of workers who are not rewarded for their performance; RBM is about setting goals, priorities and effective utilization of resources and accountability for work done. RBM is highly relevant because it focuses employees to work towards set targets thereby improving service delivery. However, during the year under review (2011) there was no budget to support the rewarding of performance. Once the budget constrains are over Government will make available a budget for rewarding performance.

LICENSES FOR SERVICE STATIONS OPERATORS

17.MR. JIRI asked the Minster of Energy and Power Development to explain to the House why service station operators are required to pay for various licenses for example council, fire, environment and energy while their profits margin are as small as $0.05 per litre.

THE MINISTER OF ENERGY AND POWER DEVELOPMENT (MR. MANGOMA): Thank you Madam Speaker. You will note that the licensing authorities mentioned by the hon. member render essential services to service stations, whether for the purposes of ensuring public health and safety or for regulatory oversight meant to ensure that all operating service stations are duly registered and comply with the conditions of their registration. The license fees are meant to meet the costs of such services. Many of the businesses are charged and meet these costs. In the case of fire, service stations require the services of the fire brigade because of the huge fire risk associated with petroleum products.

The fuel sector was liberalised and prices are now largely regulated by the market. The fuel market is structured in the following manner; On the top end are international suppliers. These have products which they sell offshore and also in storage tanks at Feruka, Masasa and Mabvuku. They can sell directly to retailers (service stations). The second level is that of fuel importers, who are Zimbabwean companies. These are licensed to buy products from the international companies offshore. They can sell to wholesalers, or directly to service stations or be the retailers themselves. The third level is that of wholesalers who sell to large customers. The final category is that of retailers who can purchase from onshore international suppliers, fuel importers or wholesalers.

The hon. member can note that depending on who the retailer purchases from, and their own decision of what price to charge, the margins will be different. No margin has been legislated or can be arrived at as a result of regulation.

The hon. member refers to a margin of five cents per litre. This margin is only an example as some service stations get margins that are higher than that. According to the fuel pricing model, service station margins have this year been ranging from 8 cents to 10 cents per litre (which is 7% of the handover price), but when competition is stiff, service stations have no choice but to lower their margins if they are to generate sales.

The fuel business is a volumes business. Service station operators make their money largely through pushing high volumes. A service station could be very profitable with a margin of 5 cents per litre as long as it sells high volumes of fuel. On the other hand, even with a margin of 20 cents per litre, a service station would go out of business if its sales are low. A better indicator of the viability of a service station is therefore its overall profits derived from the volumes. A wholesale business makes even less than 5 cents per litre on huge volumes. Some fuel importers make a margin of around 1 cent and are still profitable.

A shortcoming regarding the license fees is that they are being charged in a fragmented way, with each licensing authority not taking into account what the other licensing authorities are charging the same client.

The Ministry has been working towards a coordinated license fee structure. The ideal will be to have a fee collecting point, preferably when the operating license is issued, from which the others are then paid. This would be much easier on the business operators. The recently established Zimbabwe Energy Regulatory Authority will need to take over and resolve this issue in consultation with the other licensing authorities.

SURRENDERING OF BUDGET ALLOCATION TO TREASURY

17.MR CHIMHINI asked the Minister of Finance to explain how ministries which receive budget transfers late in November or December could utilise the budget allocation meaningfully before the expiry of the financial year without surrendering the funds to Treasury.

THE MINISTER OF FINANCE (MR. BITI): I would like to thank the hon. member for the question. I have prepared a lengthy response which I will handover to Hansard, but the bottom line is that we do make the disbursement even in December and in fact ministries are actually able to use the amounts. Let me read the answer.

1. The 2011 National Budget provided for total expenditures and net lending of US$2.746 billion.

2. The policy thrust of the 2011 National Budget of creating a fair economy was espoused by a US$1.3 billion non-wage bill component which targeted;

· Enhanced delivery of public services in areas such as health, education, agriculture and social protection; and

· Infrastructure rehabilitation in sectors such as energy water and sanitation, transport and communications, and social infrastructure

1. Budget support to non-wage expenditures for the ten month period to end of October, at US$783 million, was below targeted disbursement of us$1.088 billion by US$305 million.

2. Cognisant of this under-performance, especially on the capital budget and taking advantage of historically strong revenue collections in the last quarter of the year, resources were targeted at projects and programmes which had the absorptive capacity.

3. To this end, US$275 million was disbursed in support of priority and critical non-wage programmes and projects over the period November to December 2011. Refer to attached annexture.

4. Combined with previous budget disbursements, overall non-wage bill expenditures for the last two months amounted to around US$385 million, largely reflecting effective utilisation of US$275 million disbursed over the same period.

5. This development is further evidenced by relatively low cash resources of around US$7.6 million which remained in the ministries' accounts by year end.

6. Treasury was therefore cognisant of not disbursing resources to ministries and departments which could not effectively utilize the same over the period November to December 2011, we disbursed some of US$273 million to support critical non-wage projects in particular, capital projects that we had under-funded, due to the crowding effect of the wage bill. I have put an Annexure 2 to my report. The area where that US$273 million went to in November and December of 2011. I will hand over my full answer with the actual disbursements. I thank you.

 

 

 

 

 

FIRST READING

URBAN COUNCILS AMENDMENT BILL [H.B. 5, 2011]

MR. MATIMBA presented the Urban Councils Amendment Bill [H.B. 5, 2011].

Bill read the first time.

Bill referred to the Parliamentary Legal Committee.

MOTION

BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA) Madam Speaker, I move that Orders of the Day, Numbers 1 to 3 be stood over until Order of the Day, Number 4 has been disposed of.

Motion put and agreed to.

MOTION

CIVIL SERVICE PAYROLL SKILLS AUDIT REPORT

Fourth Order read: Adjourned debate on motion on the Civil Service Audit.

Question again proposed.

*MR. CHITANDO: Thank you Madam Speaker. I thank members who asked for the Audit Report to be tabled in the House. The reason why the Audit is the first question is that all workers were asked to be on their stations doing their work for them to be audited. The auditors visited the stations for in loco inspection of workers for example; is the real teacher on his job. They were supposed to show certificates. If they did not have them, they were given time to produce, both educational qualifications and their identity.

Unfortunately, after the 2008 elections, we have youths who were employed to work for various youth departments and also ZEC. Some did not have certificates to do their jobs. Hon. Munjeyi is aware of what happened after the war. The fighters who were real did not all go into assembly points. Some remained behind for any eventualities. This kind of behaviour has sunk into our lives. What we now want is that if somebody is employed as a doctor, yet he is not, he should leave the job for the qualified.

The qualified should be paid salaries which are commensurate with their qualifications and performance. The Audit Report should be tabled in the House for all to see and debate and remove suspicions and rumour mongering. I thank you.

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): I move that the debate do now adjourn.

Motion put and agreed to.

Debate to resume: Tuesday 6th March 2012.

MOTION

CONDOLENCES ON THE DEATH OF PROFESSOR ELIPHAS MUKONOWESHURO

Fifth Order read: Adjourned debate on motion on the death of the Minister of Public Service Hon. Prof. Mukonoweshuro.

Question again proposed.

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): I move that the debate do now adjourn.

Motion put and agreed to.

Debate to resume: Tuesday, 6th March, 2012.

MOTION

REPORT OF THE PAN AFRICAN PARLIAMENT PERMANENT COMMITTEE ON TRADE, CUSTOMS AND IMMIGRATION MATTERS

Sixth Order read: Adjourned debate on motion on the workshop report of the Pan African Parliament Permanent Committee on Trade, Customs and Immigration matters.

Question again proposed.

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): I move that the debate do now adjourn.

Motion put and agreed to.

Debate to resume: Tuesday, 6th March, 2012.

MOTION

INDIGENISATION AND EMPOWERMENT REGULATIONS

Seventh Order read: Adjourned debate on motion on the Indigenisation and Empowerment (General) Regulations, Statutory Instrument No. 21 of 2010.

Question again proposed.

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): I move that the debate do now adjourn.

Motion put and agreed to.

Debate to resume: Tuesday, 6th March, 2012.

MOTION

UNCONSTITUTIONAL STATEMENTS MADE BY SOME SERVICE CHIEFS

Eighth Order read: Adjourned debate on motion on the unconstitutional statements made by some Service Chiefs.

Question again proposed.

MR. CHIKWINYA: Thank you Madam Speaker. The House might be quite aware that this motion has been on the Order Paper for quite some time now. If I may just first of all try to explain to the House the reason why we had actually placed it on the Order Paper without winding it soon after debate.

We had agreed, in principle, Madam Speaker with the Minister of Defence, who had approached me to say, before I wound up the motion, he wanted to give a statement regarding the behaviour or the utterances of the Service Chiefs. Such statement he promised me, he had managed to compile on behalf of the Service Chiefs with the direct input of the Service Chiefs. So, it was my hope that the Minister would come to Parliament with that statement so that it would also be part of the motion but I am seeing that maybe he has failed to live up to his word. Therefore, I am compelled to wind up the motion.

Madam Speaker, I would like to thank Hon. Harrison Mudzuri for seconding this motion and also bringing to the furore of the House, surely his dismay to the utterances of the Service Chiefs which are deemed unconstitutional. I also want to thank Hon. Bhasikiti, Hon. HlongwanE for contributing to the motion, I want to thank Hon. Mudarikwa, Hon. Chitando, Hon. Marvelous Khumalo, Hon. Tabitha Khumalo and indeed a host of other hon. members who managed to contribute quite immensely to this motion.

Madam Speaker, before I put a full-stop to my winding up. I want the House to take cognisance of the fact that this motion remains relevant to the period and era within which we are approaching especially where we are now, where the Inclusive Government, as it were is now preparing to hold another round of elections to put to rest the issue of unanswered questions of 2008 elections which brought about the creation of the government of National Unity.

Madam Speaker, it then becomes critical that this House becomes fully aware and fully alive to the fact that those players who would want to influence directly or indirectly to the outcome for the elections must do so within the confines of the electoral procedures. That is basically through being a political party, approaching voters, where the voters will then have a say in the electoral process.

It also must be within this House's concerns that we do not appreciate any other statements outside the Constitution by people who will then abuse their positions to try and tilt the votes in favour of one political party or the other. It is therefore my submission to this House Madam Speaker, that I implore or I put it to the House that I seek that the House resolves to agree that the Parliament of Zimbabwe condemns the unconstitutional and treasonous statements that bring into disrepute the professional institutions of the army and the police by the Service Chiefs. Also, request the relevant institutions to affirm their loyalty to the Constitution and the laws of Zimbabwe and direct the relevant authorities to carry out investigations into the said utterances and the unconstitutional statements and make such findings public.

Madam Speaker, I am quite happy that the Deputy Prime Minister is within us today, who is also a Principal to the Government of National Unity. Madam Speaker, to the Deputy Prime Minister who is in here, Parliament is not pleased by the fact that we pass motions which basically then become academic motions which are not put into practice. But, whilst we believe that we are an august House which brings representations from various constituencies and when we resolve on certain motions, we definitely expect action to be taken with it and which actually seconds the resolutions of such motions.

I therefore request and implore the Deputy Prime Minister here present, to take our motions seriously such that action can be taken to individuals and institutions that would be figured in our resolutions of Parliament. Thus, Parliament can be seen to be a relevant institution and a relevant arm of Government as we are in the provisions of the Constitution.

I therefore put it to the House that I move that the motion be adopted. I thank you.

Motion put and agreed to.

On the motion of THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA) , the House adjourned at Twenty Minutes past Four o'clock p.m. until Tuesday, 13th March, 2012.

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