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NATIONAL ASSEMBLY HANSARD - 29 JANUARY 2014 VOL. 40 NO. 27

Wednesday, 29th January, 2014

The National Assembly met at a Quarter-past Two o'clock p.m.

 

PRAYERS

(MR. SPEAKER in the Chair)

ANNOUNCEMENTS BY MR. SPEAKER

DIGITAL RECORDING EQUIPMENT CHALLENGES

MR. SPEAKER: Please be advised that we are currently experiencing challenges with our digital recording equipment. Some of the microphones are going on and off on their own. Technicians tried to resolve the problem in the morning without much success. The challenges will be resolved between this Friday and next Monday. I kindly request hon. members to bear with us.

NON-ADVERSE REPORTS RECEIVED FROM THE PARLIAMENTARY LEGAL COMMITTEE

MR. SPEAKER: I have to inform the House that I have received Non-Adverse Reports on all the Statutory Instruments published in the Government Gazette during the month of June to October and during the month of December 2013.

ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE

MR. MADZIMURE: Thank you Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Health. Minister,on several occasions we have seen Zimbabweans, especially young children, being displayed sometimes on television and in newspapers asking for assistance for serious medical conditions. What is the Government policy regarding people who have exceptional medical conditions?

THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND CHILD CARE (DR. PARIRENYATWA): Thank you very much Mr. Speaker. Thank you hon. member for asking that very important question. When we look at special cases, we always refer them to our own institutions in the country here to make sure that our consultancy look at those cases and if they are able to do them here, they will be able to do them here. If they are not able to do them here, we can then offer assistance. Just not as Government but sometimes we look to the private sector if we cannot afford it, so that we get assistance but the policy is that, we should be able to manage special cases as Government, in the country, except for those cases that perhaps need to be exported outside. Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir.

MR. MADZIMURE: Thank you Minister. When the Government or the Ministry are …

MR. SPEAKER: Order, last time I reminded hon. members that the Standing Orders clearly state that, when you address hon. ministers, you should say, hon. minister, please and hon. members as hon. members.

MR. MADZIMURE: Thank you Mr. Speaker, it was not intentional, I was not being disrespectful.

MR. SPEAKER: Thank you.

MR. MADZIMURE: Hon. Minister, when the Government realises that this condition cannot be treated internally, does the Government immediately resign the responsibility and give it to the parents or to the person who has the condition or the Government assists in trying to mobilise resources to a certain extent? Do you immediately resign over the issue and refer it to those affected?

DR. PARIRENYATWA: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker Sir. I want to thank the hon. member for the follow-up question. I think I have already alluded to that, that when it is a case that needs to be treated outside, we as Government first look at that case. If perhaps it needs to be treated outside, then as Government, we see what we can do but we also sometimes look at the corporate sector for that particular case, to see if we can mobilise resources and support for that particular case to be exported. But, also, we find a lot of cases in the newspapers before they come to us as the Ministry of Health and Child Care. We just find them there in the papers and sometimes we then follow that up from the newspapers. Normally, it should be through our institutions and a lot of patients choose to go to private practitioners and private institutions, which may escape us immediately but sometimes it still comes back to us. It is a responsibility of the Ministry of Health and Child Care, Mr. Speaker Sir; that we should look after the health of all our people here in Zimbabwe.

MR. MUTSEYAMI: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. My question is directed to the Hon. Minister of Health. Hon. Minister, with regard to policy on supply of medication to HIV/AIDS victims, how do you explain a scenario whereby medication being given to patients in the rural areas, when they go to collect their allocations on monthly basis, they are being advised by the clinics to pay a sum of US$2 against the notion that medication for HIV/AIDS victims is free of charge.

THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND CHILD CARE (DR. PARIRENYATWA): Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir and let me again thank the hon. member for that question. The policy of Government is that, HIV/AIDS treatment is free in this country. So, often, you find certain districts out there who will say, a patient must pay a card fee of some sort. That is not in our agreement. Ours, we say, HIV/AIDS treatment should be free and it is meant to be free. The problem we are finding now and which we need to straighten is that, sometimes the investigations in the hospitals, towards HIV/AIDS treatment, may cost much more than the drugs. So, we are trying to regularise that particular policy such that when we are talking about HIV/AIDS treatment being free, it must be all the way through right to the medication. So, whatever is happening, if it is a particular case that you have in mind, please bring it as a specific question so that we can answer it specifically for that particular area. Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir.

MR. MUTSEYAMI: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. The Hon. Minister, thank you so much for the response. Against all odds, to an HIV/AIDS victim patient in a rural set-up, being asked to pay US$2 or a US$1 for an allocation on monthly basis, against all the issues that we know of, happening in this country, what systems probably will you put in place to address this because it is really happening in Chipinge District? I am so clear that in all clinics across the district, they pay. I am sure in other hon. members' constituencies in the rural areas they pay, for example, in Muzarabani. I know they pay at rural clinics when they come to collect their medication. It is not necessarily happening in my district specifically, it is happening in quite a number of districts. I thank you Mr. Speaker Sir.

THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND CHILD CARE (DR. PARIRENYATWA): Thank you very much Mr. Speaker Sir. Again, the follow up question is appreciated but clearly, we would further appreciate if you put that in writing as a specific question for those particular districts. Like I said, certain wards and districts insist on a card fee, which should not really be happening. I just want to say to the hon. member, we now do not classify people who are HIV positive as victims. We want to remove that stigma and we then just say if you are HIV positive, you are HIV positive and the word victim we try to underplay that because it stigmatises a lot of our patients. Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir.

MS. MANGAMI: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. My question is directed to the hon. Minister of Finance. What is Government policy regarding the transaction charges that take place on EcoCash?

THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (MR. CHINAMASA): Mr. Speaker Sir, I thought that is in the budget. I provided for taxation on a transaction and I would refer the hon. member to the budget.

MR. MAKUNDE: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. My question is directed to the hon. deputy minister responsible for livestock. I want to know if ever there is any roll-out programme which will seek to improve our national herd in terms of cattle. I thank you.

THE DEPUTY MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (LIVESTOCK) (MR. ZHANDA): Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. Let me thank the hon. member for a pertinent question. Government is working on a programme to improve the national herd in terms of the qualitative outcomes yield per factor. Some of the cattle, particularly in the communal lands are really getting smaller and smaller, so Government is concerned about that. What we are doing is to look at how best we can improve by injecting new bulls, new genetics including the heifer exchange programme, which was meant to improve the quality of the national herd.

Over and above that, we want to embark on a programme to commercialise, particularly cattle because cattle have been kept in the communal lands as a way of wealth or probably for incidental purposes. However, when you look at the cost of a tonne of maize, it costs almost $350 but how many people can sell a tonne of maize? We want our people to sell at least two or three animals every year so that they can deal with their problems, particularly issues of school fees, fertilizer, et cetera. There is no point at all for our people to say, they do not have fertilizer when you have got eight herd of cattle in your pen. Therefore, we want to commercialise the issue of cattle.

MS. ZINDI: I need to find out from the deputy minister, how soon does his ministry intend to roll-out this programme? Who would be the beneficiaries and what one needs in order to qualify to be on the scheme? Thank you.

MR. ZHANDA: Mr. Speaker Sir, I want to thank the hon. member again for the question. We used to have what we called, a cattle finance scheme. That is what was used, particularly with the commercial sector to finance the farmers on the cattle finance scheme. It was a concessionary finance scheme run by the Cold Storage Commission (CSC). However, if you look into the budget, the only allocation that we got, particularly for the livestock sector is $4 million which is far much short of the requirement.

We are working on a facility that would probably come through Agribank to finance that programme, but I must mention that even if we have that kind of money, there is a shortage of breeding stock locally. We are looking at how best we can use some of the CSC ranches to embark on a massive cattle breeding system so that we can pass those animals to communal farmers. I must mention that the national herd used to stand at about six million cattle and we have approximately

5 300 000 cattle. What has changed is the ownership structure of those cattle and as a result, it has affected off-take position where in actual fact, the off-take is basically coming from the communal lands and not from the small scale farmers. We are concerned about that and we therefore, need to embark on an exercise where we inject new blood and new genetics into the communal lands.

We also need to finance our small scale farmers. We are concerned because when you look at agriculture financing, the people who are growing crops like maize and soya beans have been financed. They have been provided for in the budget but livestock has not been provided for. We are working together with the Ministry of Finance to find out how best we can finance cattle breeding. I thank you.

MR. MADZIMURE: Thank you Mr. Speaker. Hon. minister, the biggest threat that we have in growing our national herd is the issue of research stations. How are you taking care of those research stations that have been either allocated to individuals or some settlers have moved into the research stations, for example, in Mazowe and Mwenezi?

MR. ZHANDA: Mr. Speaker Sir, I want to thank the hon. member for the pertinent question. I admit that we have problems in Mazowe Research Station and the one in Chiredzi. It is an issue that we have taken up with the Ministry of Lands and Rural Resettlement, not only in terms of research stations, but including other state lands that belong to CSC. We have made representations to the Ministry of Lands and Rural Resettlement to deal with that situation. The Government is concerned because some of the research stations, particularly Mazowe, is used for quarantine. As a result, if you do not have the quarantine stations, we have got problems in terms of dealing with animal diseases and so forth. So, we have made representations to deal with that aspect with the Ministry of Lands and Rural Resettlement. I thank you.

MR. MUKANDURI: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. My question is directed to the Minister of Finance and Economic Development. On the issue of spot fines, there appears to be some confusion because if you ask the police officers who demand spot fines, they say they are on an assignment to raise revenue for administration purposes. Is the money collected deposited in the conservative fund or it is purely or specifically used by the ZRP?

THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (MR. CHINAMASA) :Spot fines and any other fines for the infringement of the law are not primarily a revenue-raising measure. They are imposed, levied and collected because there would have been an infringement of the law. In the case of spot-fines on the road, if you drive an unroadworthy vehicle or speed, it is an infringement of the law. Therefore, it is on that basis that spot-fines are levied and collected. When they are collected, they become non-tax revenue, accruing to the consolidated revenue fund.

MS. MAJOME: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. My question is directed to the Hon. Minister of Health. I would like to know if the ministry has any plans to try and restore confidence among subscribers of one of the biggest medical aid societies in Zimbabwe. This is in relation to whether or not they can confidently feel that their hard-earned subscriptions are put to good use and it is in consideration of the sorry state of some of the facilities such as West End Clinic. I went there last week and the benches in the lobby are totally worn out. I would like to know if the ministry is moving to restore our confidence as public subscribers because it is an important society and the biggest in the country.

THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND CHILD CARE (DR. PARIRENYATWA): Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. I would like to thank the hon. member for that very important and pertinent question. It is true that one of the medical aid companies in this country has shown that it is at its top in terms of very huge, unacceptably high salaries. At the same time, the monies they are using as salaries are largely coming from poor contributors, the civil servants' hard-earned money where most of them are earning very little money. They make subscriptions and Government subscribes 80% for them, either way, it is government. Your contribution will be 20% and 80% comes from Government. That is the money which goes to this particular medical aid society.

It is shocking and unacceptable that this has happened. However, what I want to assure you as hon. members and as a country is that, as a ministry we have looked at what our mandate is regarding this matter. We have then thoroughly defined the way we should go. We are systematically going through that issue very quickly, urgently and surgically to the extent that we are urging our people to continue paying and feeling that they can benefit from this particular medical aid. Little has been done now, but I can assure you that we are doing so much. Perhaps at this point in time, it may compromise some of our investigations that we are doing but we will be in a position to give you the way forward when we have gone through all the investigations that are being carried out thoroughly.

We saw the board of this particular medical aid a few days ago and after that, they dismissed their Chief Executive Officer (CEO). Perhaps, we would like to go further and see what else can be done. Therefore, we are surgically looking at this issue and I can assure you hon. member, Hon. Speaker Sir, that as a country, as a ministry, we will be able to put this issue to rest in a way that satisfies, not only members of this particular medical aid society but in a way that is good for this country of Zimbabwe.

MR. MLISWA: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. I would like to thank the hon. Minister of Health and Child Care for having articulated what is happening in terms of the Premier Service Medical Aid Society (PSMAS) scandal. I am glad that he has taken responsibility of that and is investigating. However, hon. minister, you met the board whose role is oversight. The CEO was fired or retired, but how do you leave the board which then authorised the CEO and management to be paid that much? - [HON. MEMBERS: Hear, Hear] - You cannot say you have killed - the Americans say, "you cannot say you have killed the Sheriff when his deputy is alive," because the same policies will prevail. What confidence do we have that the very same board will not appoint a CEO who will be paid US$500 000? Thank you. - [HON. MEMBERS: Hear, Hear.]-

DR. PARIRENYATWA: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. I would like to appreciate the follow up analysis - [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections]-

MR. SPEAKER: Order, order.

DR. PARIRENYATWA: I would like to appreciate the follow up analysis that has been given by the hon. member. It is true that the board fired the Chief Executive Officer, but clearly to us, that is their own in-house arrangement. We, as Government, have not come up with the direction we are going to take. I can assure you, we are taking a direction that will satisfy the Zimbabwean population, the people who contribute and the members of this society. As far as we are concerned, the arrangement they did is their own in-house and we have not yet acted to the satisfaction of what we want to do. Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir.

MS. ZINDI: I just want to find out whether the minister penned his signature in terms of approval to such high salaries of the CEO of PSMAS together with the other 13 managers?

DR. PARIRENYATWA: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. Clearly, we are not the ones who pay. Let me just say that we came in as Government in September/October and looked at various issues to include that of the medical society industry. We are critiquing every area including what the medical aid societies are asking as contributions and the conflict of interest that will be within their own industry. In terms of payment, the board is mandated to look at that wholesome package. So far, Government has looked into those salaries and came up with a position which has not yet been revealed to the public. It is part of the issues we are working on in order to evade any fear that, any board that comes in will be abhorrent. It will be under the close eye and observation of the Government. As far as salaries are concerned we are not the direct paymaster to them. Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir.

MR. M. NDLOVU: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. My question is directed to the Minister of Water, Environment and Climate. In view of the directive that was given by Government that water bills be cancelled, what is the policy of Government as regards irrigation schemes in communal areas since ZINWA is going on a wholesale disconnection of the same commodity? I thank you.

THE MINISTER OF WATER, ENVIRONMENT AND CLIMATE (MR. KASUKUWERE): Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. I would like to thank the hon. member for his question. I agree, Mr. Speaker Sir, that the first thing that we did, there was a directive given by Government that all domestic water bills be written off. I am sure that we are all aware of that process.

The hon. member's second part is to do with water which is being used by small holder farmers. I am sure he agrees that these are farmers, who are producing, what ZINWA is simply doing is to recover. We have people who work for ZINWA who must be paid, we all want to understand that we have people who work in cities, providing water to the communities and they are also expecting to be paid. What ZINWA is simply doing is to ensure that we recover all the costs which we spend for treatment of water as we provide the services. Of course water is a human right, it is not charged for. What is charged for is the service that is being delivered. I would like to urge my colleague members here to try and encourage our people to pay their bills. It has become very difficult for us to deliver the services. If they do not pay, they cannot expect service delivery. Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir.

MR. CHIBAYA: Thank you Hon. Speaker. My question is directed to the Hon. Minister of Finance and Economic Development, Hon. Chinamasa. Minister, what is the Government policy on Chief Executive Officers for parastatals, who are paying themselves hefty salaries? What mechanisms are in place to curb it?

THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (MR. CHINAMASA): Mr. Speaker Sir, an exercise has started through the Office of the President and Cabinet to investigate the remuneration given to all parastatals. When that exercise is complete, we will be able to formulate what to do with those who have been paying themselves above the reasonable levels of remuneration.

DR. LABODE: My question is directed to the Minister of Health and Child Care. South Africa has a policy that says when drugs are to be exported to South Africa; they must land either at Oliver Tambo Airport or Durban. I would also imagine what it means for the Zimbabwean industry for the pharmaceutical industry. On the contrary, drugs being imported in Zimbabwe can come through a combi, can come through Beitbridge, from any quota. To export drugs from South Africa, it means for every kilogram, a Zimbabwean company has a cost of $4. My question is, if you think the South African policy is good practice, why we do not adopt it. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. That is killing our industry because if you want to export to the nearest person. I think our policy should be - if you agree with me - [HON MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections]-

MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Dr. Labode, ask your question.

DR. LABODE: So I am suggesting should we not land our drugs at Harare and Bulawayo airport only?

THE MINISTER OF HEALTH AND CHILD CARE (DR. PARIRENYATWA): I would like to thank the hon. member for asking that important question. It is true, we have negotiated with the South Africans that it is not going to be Oliver Tambo Airport only if we are exporting. They have already agreed that we can use the border.

However, this issue is still under the SADC Health Desk, to harmonise exports within the region. We had argued that if we are going to import into SADC, let us bulk import as SADC, so some of these inter-border trade agreements is what we are trying to smoothen with the South Africans. In many ways, they have been unfair to us and I think we have managed to tip that over but we need it now in writing and paperwork finished. Your observation, hon. member is quite correct and we are addressing that. I thank you Hon. Speaker Sir.

MRS. NYAMUPINGA: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. Mr. Speaker, I stand to be guided by you because my question might be touching two ministries, but I want to direct it to the Minister of Water, Environment and Climate and maybe also Minister of Local Government, I do not know who will take it. Mr. Speaker you will guide me.

I want to find out the state of preparedness of the Government in terms of these heavy rains that are coupled with heavy winds that are sweeping peoples' houses in the rural areas. When people are swept together with their houses, there is no excavator to remove everything that has been swept together with the person and the person is still lying under very heavy stones. I do not know what state of preparedness the Government has put in place because of this climate change.

THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, WATER AND CLIMATE (MR. KASUKUWERE): Thank you very much Mr. Speaker Sir. I would like to thank the hon. member for the question but I am sure this is a question that relates to the Ministry of Local Government because it is about the civil response to national disasters. Thank you very much Mr. Speaker Sir.

MR. MHONA: My question is directed to the Minister of Lands and Rural Resettlement. We appreciate the successful land reform programme that was trying to address those who were marginalised in regaining the land that was stolen; however, this land is still lying idle. What is the Government policy in ensuring that the land is fully utilised by the occupants so as to enhance food security in the country in tandem with our economic blueprint, the ZIM ASSET?

THE MINISTER OF LANDS AND RURAL RESETTLEMENT (DR. MOMBESHORA): Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. I would like to thank the hon. member for that question. Yes, I agree that there is quite a lot of land that is lying idle but for us to be able to identify and quantify the land that is lying idle, we intend to carry out an extensive land audit in all provinces so that we are able to say what was taken up and what was not taken up. We would also want to establish the reasons why some of the land has not been taken up.

As for the land use, there are various factors that will contribute to that. Firstly, it is the availability of funds. Our new farmers are having problems with accessing loans from the banks. It is because they either do not have the required security or the banks do not have enough cash. We work hand in hand with the Ministry of Agriculture where we also want the AGRITEX department to come in and educate our new farmers on new methods of production. So, there are so many factors that we would want the Government to address before we can finally take back the land that is not being utilised.

If you look the world-over where land reform has taken place, it has taken them generations, thirty to forty years to see the benefits of the land reform, but in Zimbabwe we have seen the benefits within ten years. That shows that we are doing much better but we need a lot of money to support the new farmers in terms of the infrastructure and also for their cash flows. Unless we have put in enough money and enough support for our new farmers, we cannot go on to take land from them because they are not using it adequately. As long as the farmer is there and showing signs that he is doing something on the land, we will try and support them and make sure that the land is used properly.

MR. CHAMISA: Good afternoon Mr. Speaker Sir. My question is directed to the Minister of Justice, Legal and Parliamentary Affairs, Hon. Emmerson Dambudzo Mnangagwa. Hon. Minister, acknowledging and realising that Section 7 of the new Constitution does acknowledge the imperator and importance of making sure that we promote the knowledge on a ubiquitous level of our Constitution and its principles, I want to ask a question that has two parts. What are we doing to make sure we align and harmonise the laws of our country in line with the new Constitution after seeing all the shenanigans of corruption across the country in most of the public institutions?

Most importantly, how soon are we going to see the Government moving into the institutions of Government to train, in particular our security forces and other institutions that are supposed to be trained on aspects of the Constitution, in particular on public administration and leadership?

THE MINISTER OF JUSTICE, LEGAL AND PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (MR. MNANGAGWA): Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. I do not have the copy of the Constitution, so I cannot confirm that the section 7 he has referred to says what he said. Be that as it may, I would want to advise the hon. member that the process of harmonising and aligning Acts of Parliament to the new Constitution is on course. As I said before, we have already identified in excess of four hundred Acts of Parliament which require substantially or consequentially to be aligned to the Constitution. With regard to the aspect of you thinking that the Defence Forces are not aware of the Constitution - I have said, with the fact that you believe or have the perception that the Defence Forces do not understand the Constitution, that perception is misplaced. The Constitution of the country was a product of national exercise, the Defence Forces included. All who become officers in the military undertake particular courses which relate to issues of the Constitution, issues of human rights and so on.

The area I believe, which require more attention by us to educate and make people aware, is the civil side of society which includes Chamisa - [ Laughter] - We have done an exercise - [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections] - He asked a question on Emmerson Dambudzo Mnangagwa and I have referred to the specific person.

MR. CHAMISA: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. I was very humble and kind to ask the question from the hon. minister realising that he is the Minister of Justice who should naturally and legitimately know the Constitution of the country, but realising that he does not seem to appreciate the Constitution and its clauses - [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections] - because he has acknowledged that he is not too sure. My question is, what and when are we going to expect the commencement of a curricular training of the Civil Service, in particular all public administration departments in terms of what is required by the Constitution, Chapter 9?

THE MINISTER OF JUSTICE, LEGAL AND PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (MR. MNANGAGWA): Mr. Speaker Sir, I sat down because there was a point of order. The young man, Hon. Chamisa has yet - [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections]-

Ok, the old man, Hon. Chamisa - [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections]-

MR. CHAMISA: On a point of order Mr. Speaker, I think, in Parliament we do not have young men and old men. - [HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections]-

MR. MNANGAGWA: Is there any ruling on that? If there is not, then, I am so delighted that he is neither young nor old -[Laughter]-

Mr. Speaker Sir, I was just saying that I had sat down because an hon. member had stood up to say point of order and in terms of procedure, I felt that I should give the hon. member the opportunity to put forward his or her point of order.

Now, in the absence of that point of order being found relevant, I must continue to give my reply to the hon. member. It is true that the Department of Constitutional Affairs in the Ministry of Justice has done an exercise in compliance of the Constitution that you must make the public aware of the new Constitution. The constraint that we have is the funding, which indeed now that we are debating the budget, I have no doubt that we shall have funding assigned to promote and implement that aspect of that size required by the Constitution.

Regarding the view that I must memorise all sections of the Constitution, that is misplaced. The requirement is that I must understand the Constitution. With that Mr. Speaker, I believe that I have done justice to the unjust question.

MS. ANASTANCIA NDHLOVU: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. My question is directed to the Minister of Environment, Water and Climate. I would like to find out what Government policy is with regard to harvesting of water. We have received some heavy rains in the past three or four weeks and my heart is torn apart each time I see water which is not harvested. I would like therefore, to know from the hon. minister what Government policy is with regards to that? I thank you.

THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, WATER AND CLIMATE (MR. KASUKUWERE): Mr. Speaker Sir, I would like to once again thank the hon. member for her question regarding the harvesting of water. When His Excellency the President opened Parliament, he spoke very strongly about the issue of harvesting water. Also, in his pronouncements, he clearly gave direction in so far as harnessing of water in construction of more dams. This is also reflected in the budget statement made by the Minister of Finance and Economic Development, Mr. Chinamasa.

We are aware that we are losing enormous amounts of water that flow to the oceans on a yearly basis. This year for instance, we have so far received reasonable amounts of water. We believe that if we can build more dams in the country, we will be able to store the water which will be used for agriculture and many other activities which will have a positive impact on the development of our economy.

To that extent, my ministry is pursuing vigorously, the policy as pronounced by His Excellency the President and by Government, of raising resources to build more dams to be able to capture as much water as is possible on a daily basis. We all can tell on a daily basis that we are losing a lot of water. What we are doing is to make sure that we put in place the funding that is necessary for us to dam most of our rivers as much as possible to retain that very precious water. Thank you very much Mr. Speaker.

*MR. CHINOTIMBA: Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Agriculture. In the past three years, there were wide announcements of people being encouraged to engage in farming because they were being told that they would be given land. I am sure that you heard the call.

Is there anything that you have done as the minister to address this to those people who used to say that people are just sprouting like mushroom because these days they want the land? Is there anything that you have done?

*THE DEPUTY MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE, MECHANISATION AND IRRIGATION DEVELOPMENT (MR. ZHANDA): Mr. Speaker, I think the question should not be directed to the Minister of Agriculture but to the Minister of Lands because it is relating to the resettlement. So, I think the Minister of Lands should address this question. Thank you.

*MR. SPEAKER: Your question Hon. Chinotimba seems to be misdirected, what is your position?

*MR. CHINOTIMBA: Through you Mr. Speaker, I am requesting that you direct this to the Minister of Lands and Rural Resettlement?

*THE MINISTER OF LANDS AND RURAL RESETTLEMENT (DR. MOMBESHORA): Thank you Mr. Speaker. I think that if we look at the models that we drafted on land resettlement,there is Model A1, which has the majority of the people with small plots and Model A2 has bigger plots. So, I do not know which people were being referred to as mushrooming in the areas. I think that the hon. member who said this had no knowledge of the land resettlement programme and how it was being conducted. So, we do not have a land reform model that had people settled like mushrooms. I think this is where I can end. I thank you.

Oral Answers to Questions Without Notice were interrupted by MR. SPEAKER in terms of Standing Order Number 34.

ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS WITH NOTICE

AVAILABILITY OF RESEVOIRS IN GOKWE

1. MS. MANGAMI asked the minister of Environment, Water and Climate to explain how Government intends to improve availability of reservoirs such as dams in Gokwe, so that irrigation activities can be undertaken.

THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, WATER AND CLIMATE (MR. KASUKUWERE): Mr. Speaker Sir, I am sure when I made my remarks earlier on, I spoke about our commitment as Government to ensure that we have enough water sources and we build enough dams for most of our requirements, be it agricultural, commercial or domestic.

Gokwe finds itself in that situation and I am also very well aware of the need for us to invest more in terms of dams in the Gokwe area. This is something that, as a Ministry, we are seized with subject to the availability of funding. So, I would like to assure the Hon. Member that we are seized with the matter of Gokwe and we know that yearly, there is perennial shortage of water. We have plans and programmes in place that are meant to alleviate the challenges facing Gokwe.

MINING OPERATIONS BY THE RUSSIAN COMPANY IN PENHALONGA

2. MR. SARUWAKA asked the minister of Environment, Water and Climate whether the mining operations by the Russian Company in Penhalonga along Mutare River are done in compliance with Environmental Management Agency Regulations.

THE MINISTER OF ENVIRONMENT, WATER AND CLIMATE (MR. KASUKUWERE): I want to thank Hon. Saruwaka for his question regarding the mining operations of DTZ in Manicaland. What we have done Mr. Speaker Sir, is to ensure that the company operates in terms of our laws. Government has taken a position to terminate all operations of companies that are mining along the river beds. This is also the same with regards to DTZ. We expect them to comply and right now they are not mining along our river beds.

CLINICS IN RURAL AREAS

8. MR. NDUNA asked the Minister of Health and child Care what the Government's policy is on the distribution of clinics in the rural areas and the strategies put in place to ensure that people have equal access to health care.

THE DEPUTY MINISTER OF HEALTH AND CHILD CARE (DR. CHIMEDZA): Thedistance from the nearest health care facility is an important factor in planning for health care services. Health care facilities should be located within a reasonable distance in rural areas where transport is less accessible and a high proportion of people live. Geographical proximity to health care facility is of great importance.

The standard practice in health infrastructure planning and development has been to ensure that one rural health centre per 10,000 people, one district hospital per 140,000 people and one provincial hospital per province.

It is Government policy that people should access a health care facility within a radius of 8-10 kilometers. However, due to population movements which were a result of the Agrarian Reform Programme and natural population growth, this to some extent has affected the accessibility of health care services to the rural populace.

The access to health care study of 2008, found that most communities live within a 5 km radius of their nearest health facilities, 23% between 5-10km and 17% over 10km from the nearest health care centre. The Ministry has continued to lobby for funds from Treasury under the Public Sector Investment Programme, for the construction of new health care facilities where there is need and it has impacted on the conversion of some former farm homesteads to clinics in resettlement areas.

WORKING CONDITIONS FOR NURSES.

10. MRS. CHIRISA asked the Minister of Health and Child Care what the ministry is doing in terms of improving working conditions for nurses.

THE DEPUTY MINISTER OF HEALTH AND CHILD CARE (DR. CHIMEDZA): It is necessity for hospitals and clinics to operate 24/7, 365 days a year. As such, health workers including nurses rotate shifts and sometimes they are forced to work extra hours because of either shortage of staff or emergencies. This can at times cause stress and burnout in nurses. The Ministry of Health and Child Care, through the Health Services Board is responsible for managing the working conditions of nurses. Below is a summary of the current Government framework intended to improve the working conditions of nurses.

Salaries: In 2013, the conditions for health workers were not favourable due to social economic factors that were prevailing in the country. Salaries for most health workers were far below the poverty datum line with a registered general nurse earning a basic salary of US$230 per month and a matron in grade 11/district nursing officer earning US$277 per month. This is considerably very low compared to SADC and other private sector salary levels where a sister-in-charge nurse earns US$3 594 and US$2 220 respectively as per salary surveys that we have.

In trying to address and improve the working conditions for the nurses, the Health Services Board is paying much attention to non monetary and monetary conditions of service.

General allowances (Monetary): Nurses are also paid general allowances and health specific allowances meant to improve their working conditions.

Transport allowance: Is meant to cushion health workers from travelling to and from work. The transport allowances paid for nurses ranges from US$76; this is paid to student nurses and US$100 per month for the rest of the other nursing grades.

Housing allowance : Is meant to assist workers in payment of rentals. Currently for the nurses, it is paid from US$103 to US$131 per month.

Night duty allowance : This is an allowance, paid to members who come for night duty. Currently, it is being paid at 10% of daily wage rate times number of nights worked up to 40 nights a month. For example, if a R.G.N earns US$230 per month and works for ten nights during the month of November, his or her night duty allowance is US$7,70 for the ten nights.

Stand by and call-out allowance : The allowance, though approved by Treasury is not being paid because of resource challenges facing the Ministry of Finance. This must be paid to nurses based at rural health clinics. Although these cadres are supposed to be on duty from 0745 hours to 1645 hours, in practice they are on duty 24 hours a day as rural clients can/may visit clinics any time when they have emergencies. This allowance is currently approved at a rate of 20% of basic salary.

Uniform allowance: Falls into two categories, the initial uniform grant and the uniform allowance. Uniform allowance is paid to enable members to buy and maintain prescribed uniforms and is currently being paid at a rate of US$15 per month. Initial grant allowance, is a one-off payment to purchase appropriate uniforms. It is meant to assist new members joining the service and those promoted who may require a different set of uniform. Currently, members are receiving a once off payment of US$80.

Psychiatric allowance : Is paid as an incentive to psychiatric nurses working at psychiatric institutions. It is currently being paid at US$20 per month.

Rural allowance : Is paid as an incentive for working at a rural health institution. It is currently being paid at a rate of 5% basic salary. The board is still lobbying with Treasury to have other health sector specific allowances for nurses reinstated. The allowances that still have to be reinstated are as stated below:

Post basic allowances : It is an incentive paid to nurses who hold more than the basic qualification required in that profession. The board is lobbying that the allowance be reinstated at a rate of 15% of basic salary.

Medical allowances : Paid as an allowance to members whose work requires them to get in direct contact with the patients, whose contact with patients may be a health hazard. The board is lobbying that the allowance be reinstated at a rate of 20% of basic salary.

Other incentives: Pension contribution; Government is currently paying 100% on members' pensions contributions and also paying 3.5% of the contributions to NSSA whilst the member pays the other 3.5% to make a total contribution of 7%.

Funeral assistance : Is the money paid out at the death of a member of the health service, currently it is US$700, being paid out to cover funeral expenses.

Locum : This is not an allowance but a temporary employment granted to nurses and health cadres to pluck out effects of staff shortages during their own off and leave periods.

Non monetary benefits:

Medical aid : Currently being paid 80% for all members who are subscribers to Premier Service Medical Aid Society (PSMAS) and members are paying 20%.

Duty free vehicle importation : The scheme is operational but due to lack of financial resources, a targeted approach is being used in allocation of certificates. The targeted groups are medical and paramedics staff, Grade E (2) and above. These include matron Grade 111, matron Grade 11, district nursing officers and provincial nursing officers, senior nursing officer and deputy director nursing services.

Personal issue vehicle scheme : The scheme is meant for members occupying grade of directors and equivalent grade. This includes the Director of Nursing Services. The director is allocated a vehicle for a period of five years for both official and personal use. He is entitled to purchase it thereafter at a discounted disposal value.

Accommodation: The board has prepared a database that details list of accommodation requirements for members of the health service and is lobbying with local authorities to have health workers in their different locations countrywide prioritised during residential stands allocation.

Transport: Transport to and from is being provided by the Civil Service Commission and institutional buses.

Policies and Concept papers meant to improve working conditions : The Board came up with policies that are meant to improve working conditions for nurses in the year 2012 and 2013. However, due to financial constraints they have not been implemented. The board continues to seek for funding for implementation of the policies. The policies and concept papers are as listed below:

- Long service awards and outstanding performance awards

- Concept paper on the development of a Housing Fund for the public health sector.

- HIV/AIDS and TB policy programme

- Workplace Health and safety policy

- Policy of succession planning in the health service

- Implementation of health service appointment, performance advancement regarding transfer, promotion and training procedures.

Revision of the nursing staff establishment: To alleviate work stress and burnout being caused by shortage of nurses, the Board advocates for the revision of the nursing establishment. Currently authorized establishment for nurses is at 20 623 which is inadequate against the disease burden, population growth and WHO guidelines to patient-nurse ratio. The above figure includes all the nursing professions. The 1 269 primary care nurses, directors of nursing, matrons, tutors, district nursing officers, clinical officers, nurse aides and everybody else. The Ministry has requested additional creation of 5 276 posts for nurses in its bid to Treasury, which would alleviate nurses' issues of work stress, staff burn out, alleviate unnecessary patient deaths and improve the time they spend with patients.

Maybe Mr. Speaker Sir, it is important for me to point out that the establishment of 20 000 is the same establishment that was there in 1980. So, this establishment no longer speaks to the disease burden of today and the needs of the health care sector in demands of today including the whole service regulations, to effectively deal with cases of bullying or sexual harassment at work places. Permitting work release, leave on compassionate grounds, study leave and holidays, sticking to healthy nursing work hours and standard working week which is 80 hours of work and also night duty allowances in case night work. Promoting the principle of pay for performance, which is in line with the Results Based Management personnel system.

The Health Services Board and the Ministry will continue to highlight the nurse bill of rights as enshrined in the Health Services Act Regulations to allow more autonomy in decision making at work places which maximise their contributions to society. Furthermore, the Ministry shall continue to work with the Zimbabwe Nurses Council to ensure that nursing practices and guidelines are mainstreamed at the workplace.

- Health Retention Scheme

- The Ministry also notes that the public expenditure model on health falls short of the Abuja Declaration of 15%. This time around in the budget we were allocated I think 8, 7%. As a result, development partners come to assist in various areas such as capacity development in leadership, management and governance as well as offering non-taxable allowances through the Global Fund and the Health Transition fund. The Health Transition Fund is meant to support achievement of Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) 4 and 5 by offering allowances and training midwives.

- Qualified full time nurses of the Ministry of Health and Child Care, nurses in missions, rural and councils in grade C5 and above are currently receiving retention allowance which is being funded by the Global Fund and the Health Transition Fund. The support, whilst appreciated, can not sufficiently improve the working conditions for nurses and positively influence their turnover decisions. The Ministry will continue to work and look for funding partners to help in the retaining of nurses. However, it is requested that Government comes up with a robust health workers financing model which ensures that remuneration packages for the sector are in line with the SADC benchmarks by 2016. This is clearly stated in the Health Services Board position paper to the Ministry of Finance. I thank you Mr. Speaker Sir.

MS. CHIRISA: Thank you Mr. Speaker. Hon. Minister, thank you very much for your very comprehensive response but I still have got other questions that are to follow. You talked about non-monetary and specific allowances. Do these extend to the junior staff? There is also the issue of locum, where you are saying this is a strategy to deal with the shortage of staff in the hospitals and yet there are nurses who are unemployed.

Then the issue of vehicle imports which relates only to senior staff members in the Ministry of Health and leaving out the junior staff members, what is your response to that?

There is also the issue, that the Government is saying 3 years experience is needed before you are employed, can you please explain. Thank you.

DR. CHIMEDZA: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. Maybe I will start with the issue of locums. It is true that the Government is short staffed in terms of nurses. I think I have mentioned it also here in this House. There is a shortage of nurses in Government right now. The problem is, there has been a Government freeze of employing all Government employees including nurses. Unfortunately a freeze for the health care sector has been a disaster because currently we have a ratio of one nurse to fifteen patients when the normal ration that is expected by international standards and even local standards is one nurse to four patients. This is happening at a stage where we actually have lots of nurses who are unemployed and who are in the streets.

So, when we say a locum, we are saying a nurse, when there are some nurses that are off or on leave, the relief nurse that comes to work is called a locum and this can come from the nurses that are currently unemployed. They come and they are paid a certain stipend for the work that they would have done. So, that is the first question.

The second question, they asked about the Government requiring experience for nurses to be employed. I do not think that is Government policy at all. Nurses that come straight from training can be employed by Government. The only problem is that currently, all the posts have been frozen and we have been lobbying the Ministry of Finance vigorously that really, for us as a Government, it does not make sense, to have a shortage and to have excess nurses in the streets when we require their services in the hospitals and we cannot employ them because we have frozen their posts. So, we are actually agreeing with you, all nurses needs to be employed and the freeze be lifted immediately for the benefit of Zimbabweans.

Some of the benefits that are mentioned that you said are not getting to every member of the nursing staff; it is a question of resources. If we had enough money from our partners, the Global Fund or the Health Transition Fund, it would be our desire to have every nurse being paid out a stipend to motivate them and to reward them for the excellent work that they are doing. But, because the resources are short, you only target the key people that you think will have a bigger impact in terms of retention. So, unfortunately, it will not cascade to the most junior staff but we would love that to happen. I thank you Hon. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: Thank you Hon. Minister for your comprehensive response which leaves the Chair wondering why question 7 and 9 were not appropriately attended to. Perhaps it is food for thought for the next session on Wednesday.

RESCUSITATION OF PUBLIC SWIMMING POOLS.

11. MR. NDUNA asked the Minister of Sports, Arts and Culture the plans the Government has to resuscitate public swimming pools.

THE DEPUTY MINISTER OF SPORTS, ARTS AND CULTURE (MS. KANENGONI): Thank you Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the hon. member for asking the question. The public swimming pools like all other local authority based sport infrastructure are resuscitated in partnership with the Ministry of Local Government, Public Works and National Housing since most public swimming pools are the property of local authorities or municipalities. Currently, my ministry is working with the Ministry of Local Government, Public Works and National Housing in the refurbishment of sport infrastructure, which includes public swimming pools, for example, the Bulawayo Main Bath in preparation for the Supreme Council for Sport in Africa Region (V) Youth Games.

My ministry has also engaged the Ministry of Local Government, Public Works and National Housing with a view to refurbishing the Chitungwiza Aquatic Complex after we toured the facility in early January, 2014.

One of our parastatals, the Sports and Recreation Commission is working closely with the Zimbabwe Swimming Federation through holding workshops in our major cities where swimming facilities are available to capacitate our coaches and trainers.

The ministry is also making efforts to engage stakeholders and the corporate world for funding towards rehabilitation of swimming pools and other sport facilities. Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir.

MR. NDUNA: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. I want to ask the deputy minister if they have any plans to make sure that they tutor hon. members in this House on how to swim for those that are not able to swim in order that hon. members can lead by example on issues that have to do with swimming capability.

MR. SPEAKER: Hon. member, I think your supplementary question has nothing to do with the original question. The emphasis is on resuscitation of public swimming pools and not how to teach Members of Parliament how to swim.

MS. ANASTANCIA NDHLOVU: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. My supplementary question to the deputy minister is what efforts her ministry is doing to make sure that the children areas also have such facilities, recognising the need to tap the talent which is vast in our countryside. Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir.

MS. KANENGONI: Thank you Mr. Speaker and thank you hon. member. It is of real priority as a ministry to make sure that all sporting facilities are available at the grassroots level including rural areas. It is definitely on our plan to make sure that there is access to such facilities. Swimming pools are something that has been lacking in the rural areas, so we are working on it together with the Ministry of Primary and Secondary Education. Thank you.

EMPOWERMENT OF SMALL SCALE MINERS

14. MR. NDUNA asked the Minister of Mines and Mining Development, the ministry's strategies for empowering small scale miners who are required to pay the mining fees as large scale operators.

THE MINISTER OF MINES AND MINING DEVELOPMENT (MR. CHIDHAKWA): Thank you Mr. Speaker. I want to express gratitude to the hon. member for asking the question. I want the hon. member and this House to know that, having looked at all the tariffs paid for all our permits and licences including exploration licences, mining licences, cutting and polishing of diamonds licences, we decided that we were going to make reductions in the licence fees recognising the need to ensure that the mining sector was given the impetus to contribute to ZIM ASSET. We have, therefore, presented a full proposal to the Ministry of Finance and Economic Development and we have had discussions with the ministry. I am confident that, come the finalisation of the budget, these fees will be drastically reduced to enable our people including the small scale miners to get into the mining sector. The large scale miners also will be enabled to pay attractive fees so that we make money not from fees but from minerals and jobs created for our people and so forth. I thank you Mr. Speaker Sir.

MR. NDUNA: I see that as a result of these charges to small scale miners, there is a marked absence of small scale miners in the diamond mining sector, in particular in Chiadzwa. Is the Minister of Mines and Mining Development happy with the operations at the diamond mines in Chiadzwa?

MR. SPEAKER: Hon. Nduna, your supplementary question does not arise - [MR MAHLANGU: Chinja uuye kuopposition] - [MR. NDUNA: Chimbonyarara Mahlangu] -

Order, order. You have only one Chair and I shall therefore not indulge you. If you may sit down.

REVITALISATION OF SENGWA MINE

15. MR. CHIKOMBA asked the Minister of Mines and Mining Development to update the House on the ministry's position regarding the revitalisation of Sengwa Mine in Gokwe-Kabuyuni.

THE MINISTER OF MINES AND MINING DEVELOPMENT (MR. CHIDHAKWA): Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. Let me again thank the hon. member for that question which relates both to the Ministry of Mines and Mining Development and to the Ministry of Energy and Power Development. I am aware that an agreement was signed with RIO-ZIM for a major development which included a mining operation in Sengwa at the Sengwa deposit and a power station that would generate significant quantities of power for Zimbabwe. I have looked at the documentation and realised that nothing has actually happened on the ground. I have asked the Permanent Secretary, who has since met with RIOZIM to ask why that has not happened. It is one of those areas where we feel that concessions are held but are not being put to the use for which they were allocated in order to benefit the people of Zimbabwe. If that does not happen, we will not hesitate to withdraw those concessions to enable other players who have resources and are able and willing to proceed with mining. I would like to assure the hon. members in this House that we will ensure that the Sengwa deposit which is considered to be one of the richest deposits of coal in Zimbabwe is put to good use and that it benefits the people of Zimbabwe. Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir.

*MR. CHIKOMBA: Thank you hon. minister. I understood what you have said. How many years have gone by without any progress? There are people who want to mine. As we speak right now, everything is at a standstill. It would be a good idea to create employment for the people. It has been a long time and people are still waiting. Thank you. MR. CHIDHAKWA: Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. I can see why the hon. member is a Member of Parliament and these areas are in his neighborhood. He feels the pain of not benefiting from where he knows there is benefit. I can also feel that pain clearly because I have had an opportunity to meet both domestic and international investors and discuss with them. They have expressed the desire to have access to this particular resource and many other resources that we have. I notice that quite a number of our resources are encumbered, not for productive purposes, but for speculative purposes. We will be coming to this House to specifically bring amendments to the Mines and Minerals Act in order to strengthen the issues of 'use it or lose it' and define clearly what 'using it' means. This is so because in some cases, as is the case where you are, very little activity is being done. One borehole is drilled and a person says 'I am using it and therefore you cannot take it away from me.' We want to specifically define the minimum extent of usage, which we say is indeed benefitting Zimbabweans so that we do not have people holding claims for speculative purposes. I understand his concerns and I will engage him directly as a Member of Parliament so that we also get the views of the people in that area. As we speak to the would-be investors, we will express those strong views and take strong measures to remedy the situation. Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir.

RESOLUTION OF THE IMPASSE WITHIN ORGANISATIONS REPRESENTATING CIVIL SERVANTS

16. MR. NDUNA asked the Minister of Public Service, Labour and Social Welfare on what efforts have been made by the ministry to resolve the impasse within organisations representing Civil Servants to ensure that the latter are not prejudiced by the delay.

THE DEPUTY MINISTER OF PUBLIC SERVICE, LABOUR AND SOCIAL WELFARE (MR. MUZENDA): Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. I would like to thank the hon. Member for asking that question. However, the question has been overtaken by events. Nevertheless, it is the ministry's position that we will always encourage representatives of the civil servants to quickly and speedily form the Apex Council so that we negotiate salaries and benefits in as little time as possible after the Budget has been announced. Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir.

MOTION

BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

THE MINISTER OF JUSTICE, LEGAL AND PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS: I move that Orders of the day Numbers 1 to 17 be stood over until Order of the day Number 18 has been disposed of.

Motion put and agreed to.

COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY

MAIN ESTIMATES OF EXPENDITURE

Eighteenth Order read: Committee of Supply: Main Estimates of Expenditure.

House in Committee.

Vote 1 - Office of the President and Cabinet - US$206,054,000 put and agreed to.

Vote 2 -Parliament of Zimbabwe - US$20, 967,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 3 - Public Service, Labour and Social Welfare - US$168,707,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 4 -Defence - US$368,054,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 5 - Finance and Economic Development - US$199,552,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 6 - Vote of Credit -, put and agreed to.

Vote 7 - Industry and Commerce - US$7,369,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 8 - Agriculture, Mechanisation and Irrigation Development - US$155,256,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 9 - Mines and Mining Development - US$8,646,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 10 - Environment Water and Climate - US$93,474,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 11 - Transport and Infrastructural Development - US$69,001,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 12 - Foreign Affairs - US$63,884,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 13 - Local Government, Public Works and National Housing - 88,350,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 14 - Health and Child Care - US$337,005,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 15 - Primary and Secondary Education - US$865,669,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 16 - Higher and Tertiary Education Science and Technology Development - US$335,231,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 17 - Youth, Indigenisation and Economic Empowerment - US$44,450,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 18 - Home Affairs - US$364,183,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 19 - Justice, Legal and Parliamentary Affairs - US$108,957,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 20 - Information, Media and Broadcasting Services - US$8,730,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 21 - Small and Medium Enterprises and Cooperative Development - US$8,695,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 22 - Energy and Power Development - US$23,445,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 23 - Women Affairs, Gender and Community Development - US$10,804,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 24 - Tourism and Hospitality Industry - US$6,194,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 25 - Information Communication Technology, Postal and Courier Services - US$11,592,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 26 - Lands and Rural Resettlement - US$14,115,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 27 - Judicial Services Commission - US$18, 875,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 28 - Civil Service Commission - US$22,602,000, put and agreed to.

Vote 29 - Sport, Arts and Culture - US$10,450,000, put and agreed to.

House resumed.

Main Estimates of Expenditure reported without amendments.

Report adopted.

THE MINISTER OF FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (MR. CHINAMASA): Mr. Speaker Sir, the Appropriation Bill is yet to be gazetted and it is proposed that it is going to be done on Friday. That being the case, I move that consideration of this matter be deferred to next Tuesday, 4th February, 2014.

Motion put and agreed to.

On the motion of THE MINISTER OF JUSTICE, LEGAL AND PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (MR. MNANGAGWA) , the House adjourned at Twenty-Two Minutes past Four o'clock p.m.

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