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NATIONAL ASSEMBLY HANSARD - 31 AUGUST 2011 VOL. 37 NO. 48

Wednesday, 31st August, 2011

The House of Assembly met at a Quarter-past Two O'clock p.m.

 

PRAYERS

(MR. SPEAKER in the Chair)

ANNOUNCEMENTS BY MR. SPEAKER

DEATH OF PROF. ELIPHAS MUKONOWESHURO

MR. SPEAKER: I have to inform the House of the death of Hon. Prof. Eliphas Mukonoweshuro, Member of Parliament for Gutu South Constituency who died on Friday, 5 th August 2011. I invite hon. members to rise and observe a minute of silence in respect of the late hon. member.

All hon. members stood up in silence.

SWITCHING OFF OF CELLPHONES

I have to remind hon. members to switch off their cellphones before business commences as the cellphones may interfere with the digital audio recording equipment.

SUBMISSIONS TO THE STANDING RULES AND ORDERS COMMITTEE

MR. SPEAKER: Following the request inviting hon. members to lodge submissions on amendments they would like effected in the House of Assembly Standing Orders by Friday the 3rd, June, 2011, no submissions were received by that date, the Standing Orders as amended by the Committee on Standing Rules and Orders shall be deemed to have been adopted by the House of Assembly from Friday, 3rd June, 2011.

MOTION

LEAVE TO SUSPEND STANDING ORDERS NO. 22, 33 (2), 34 (5), 106 AND 109

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): Mr. Speaker, Sir, I seek leave of the House to move that the provisions of Standing Orders numbers, 22, 33(2), 34 (5), 106 and 109 regarding the automatic adjournment of the House at Five Minutes to Seven O'clock p.m. and at Twenty-five Minutes past One O'clock p.m. on Friday, private members motions taking precedence on Wednesdays after question time and that question time shall be on Wednesdays, procedures in connection with the Parliamentary Legal Committee and Stages of Bills respectively, be suspended for today Wednesday 31st August 2011 in respect of the Zimbabwe Human Rights Commission Bill [H.B.2.2011].

This Bill is an urgent Bill that we would want to have resolved in this House. -[MDC MEMBERS]- Mr. Speaker, we object ( Hon. Mushonga and Hon. Madzimure stood up in objection).

MR. SPEAKER: Order, order, hon. members, if you have problems with the procedures in this House, it is not the fault of the Chair. When there is an objection, a member should stand up and say so that there is an objection. In the absence of any person have not stood up, I therefore overrule that there was no objection. It is not my fault not to know that when there is an objection you stand up to say you object and submit the reasons why you object to this particular statement.

MOTION

SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDERS NO. 22, 33(2) 34(5), 106 AND 109

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): I move that the provisions of Standing Orders Numbers 22, 33(2); 34(5); 106 and 109 regarding the automatic adjournment of the House at five minutes to seven and at Twenty-five minutes past one on Friday, Private Members motion taking precedence on Wednesday after Question Time and that Question time shall be on Wednesdays; procedures in connection with the Parliamentary Legal Committee and stages of Bills respectively, be suspended for today Wednesday, the 31st of August, 2011 in respect of the Zimbabwe Human Rights Commission Bill (H.B.2, 2011).

MR. MADZIMURE: When members came back yesterday, the impression was that the House was going to adjourn and there was no preparation which had been given to the Business of the House. Taking note of the Bill which is before us, which is quite an important Bill as it deals with the Parliamentary Rights of the persons of Zimbabwe, we are of the opinion that time be given to members to really take a good look at the Bill and suggest the amendments to the Bill. So, we are of the opinion that the debate on the Bill be deferred.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, order. Hon. Madzimure the question before the House is a debate whether we should suspend relevant Standing Orders that I have put before this House or not. So, I expect you to stand up and debate along those lines and give reasons why we should not suspend the relevant Standing Orders.

MR. MADZIMURE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I thought I was giving the background so that I impress on the point that there is need to suspend the rules to facilitate the speeding up or the fast-tracking of the Bill.

MR. HOVE: Thank you Mr. Speaker, I am of the opinion that due to the importance of the Zimbabwe Human Rights Commission Bill, taking into account what we have gone through as a nation we need to really take some time and go through the contents of the Zimbabwe Human Rights Commission Bill before we can assume or resume debate on this important piece of legislation. I am of the opinion that when we were recalled, we came with the view that we were simply going to have the Proclamation of the Opening of Parliament and then we would adjourn.

Now, we are being ambushed with this Bill. I am of the opinion that this debate be suspended or adjourned up until we have had enough time to go through the contents of this Bill, so that we can make meaningful contributions, thank you Mr. Speaker.

MR. J. M. GUMBO: Thank you Mr. Speaker. I thought that the issue that the Deputy Prime Minister had brought before the House concerns an important piece of legislation which is not partisan but I can tell from the debate in the House that maybe we are trying to look at it from the political divide. I would, therefore, plead with my colleagues that we let it go the way they want - on the political divide then we see what happens thereafter.

But I thought that we must know that issues of national importance should not be taken on a partisan line but be that as it is, on this side of the House - where the majority of the party that is. I would want to concede with what my colleagues are saying and say, we leave it and then we take it when it comes next. I thank you.

MR. KANZAMA: Thank you Mr. Speaker. Whilst I want to agree with what the Chief Whip has suggested, I also want to be guided on procedures because I understand from next week after the President officially opens the other session, it means all the business that we have been doing in this session will be suspended. I do not know whether it will touch on these other Bills as well. So, if it affects the Bills then it means this Bill will be suspended and it will not be good for the nation, otherwise it will take us time as well to fulfill part of the GPA processes. So, I need to be guided Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, order hon. members. Hon. member, the rules in our Standing Orders book allow for re-introduction for every piece of legislation or motion that will not have been concluded in the previous session to the next session. The re-introduction of that is always allowed.

Motion put and negatived.

ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE

MR. HOVE: In the absence of the Minister of Foreign Affairs, I am going to direct my question to the Hon. Deputy Prime Minister, Prof. Arthur Mutambara. We read in the press that the Libyan diplomats have been expelled from Zimbabwe and my questions to the Deputy Prime Minister is, may you provide reasons as to why they have been deported on such short notice?

MR. SPEAKER: Hon. member, what is your policy concern?

MR. HOVE: Thank you Mr. Speaker for giving me the opportunity to clarify my question. My question is, with regards to the policy and treatment of people who will have been accredited to Zimbabwe when the government in the countries they represent has been changed?

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): They are two aspects to the question; the first one is very easy and the second is a bit difficult and I will answer both. If there is a constitutional change of government in a country, then it is a very easy situation because there is continuity and the Ambassador in the country will continue as an Ambassador representing the new regime in that country. For example, when there was a change from Bush junior to Obama, there was continuation with the Ambassador who was in the country and there were no problems at all. The same applies when Cameroon took over in England and so on and so on. The tough one is when there is unconstitutional change of government or a change of government which is being challenged by others. Then it is very tricky.

The way you address it is by making sure that in this environment currently in the country, the process must be inclusive and must involve the entire government, so that when we say the Government of Zimbabwe does not recognise regime A, that is the Government of Zimbabwe in its inclusive nature. Meaning that we must make sure that since we are an inclusive government, when we take positions on these issues, we consult across the political divide and take a position which all the parties in this House can defend. That is the process I am outlining.

Secondly, it is also important for us as a country to take the cue from regional bodies like SADC and the AU. As of yesterday, the regime in Libya has been recognised by 13 African countries out of 54 which means 41 have said no to the new regime so far and 13 have said its okay. As Zimbabwe, we are one of the 41, rightly or wrongly we have not recognised the new regime in Libya. That decision not to recognise the National Transition Council (NTC) in Libya must be the decision of all of us together so that we can say as Zimbabweans or Zimbabwean Government we do not recognise the NTC. If we decide to be part of those who are recognising the regime, again we must do it together as a government that is inclusive and as a people who are working together.

In terms of the situation obtaining, if we assume that as Zimbabweans we do not recognise the regime in Libya, what it means is that if we do not recognise it, then the Ambassador who was in this country had no locus standi to burn the flag of the old regime and the images of Gaddafi. What it means is that if we do not recognise the current one, we are recognising Gaddafi and Gaddafi is the one who sent this man to this country to represent him. So we had a technical problem that they cannot therefore switch to the new regime without us as a country recognising the new government in Libya. This is why Mr. Speaker Sir .... -[AN HON MEMBER: Wrong answer!]- ...

MR. SPEAKER: Order! Order hon. members!

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): Mr. Speaker, what I am saying to the House is that the current position in the country is that we have not recognised the regime in Libya. If that is the position of Zimbabwe, it is difficult for us to have an Ambassador who now switches sides to a regime that we have not recognised as a country. That is why we have got a problem why he has been given 72 hours to leave the country. However, -[HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjectionsi]-

MR. SPEAKER: Order Deputy Prime Minister! Order hon. members. In this House there is a culture that we have respected and religiously followed for a long time that whenever a minister is responding in particular, not only a minister but a senior member of the Executive in the name of Deputy Prime Minister, Prof. Mutambara, it is only fair and I think logical that we must give him the respect he deserves. It is not about the individual but it is about the office. I therefore request that we hear him in silence.

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): Hon. members, understand me very clearly. I am saying the decision to recognise or not recognise must be made by us together, collectively. This Parliament must have a say. The inclusive government must have a say. That is the process in an ideal world, that is what we want so that we can say together we have recognised the NTC or together we have not recognised the NTC. That is the process.

At the moment, Mr. Speaker Sir, the position is that we have not recognised the NTC rightly or wrongly. Now if that is the case, the current Ambassador has a problem because he has now switched to a regime that we have not recognised. There is no local standing to be in the country and that is why he has been given 72 hours to leave the country, rightly or wrongly. What I am presenting to you is the discussion held yesterday in the cabinet on the matter. We actually discussed this matter and these issues I am raising were raised in the inclusive government. What we might have to do in the future is to sit down as a government and interrogate the issue of recognition. If we feel that we should recognise the NTC, then we must do so and things will be different.

We are going to be guided by SADC, AU and our own national interest and conscience, then we will make a decision.

MR. MAVIMA: My question is directed to the Deputy Prime Minister. Could he please explain government policy versus exporters who remitted funds into Zimbabwe to export lumpy chrome ore and concentrates amounting to millions of dollars which was being held by the Ministry of Finance and not released back to the exporters?

MR. SPEAKER: Oder, hon. member your question is a specific question that require a specific answer. I will encourage that you put it in writing and direct it to the relevant minister to explain the circumstances.

MR. SULULU: My question is directed to the Deputy Prime Minister. Citing the rumours that the deposed Libyan leader Gaddafi might be in this country, what is the government policy in terms of harbouring those deposed leaders of other nations? -[HON. MEMBERS: Inaudible interjections]-

MR. SPEAKER: Order hon. members if you expect to get responses from the leadership in the Executive, allow them to do so in silence, otherwise you do not expect to get answers if you keep on making noise.

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF. MUTAMBARA): Process and substance, whatever policy we are going to have on that matter must be crafted collectively by the inclusive government in its different variances with this Parliament having an input. I want to make sure that I emphasise the inclusive nature of processes in crafting policy.

I will venture a few ideas on how to handle this one. Sometimes an individual is given an asylum to promote transition in a country. Sometimes a villainy, a bad person is given an asylum to allow that country to move on. The decision can be structured at SADC, AU and by one country. Sometimes it is a necessary evil to harbour such a character to facilitate a transition in such a country. 
Having said that, we have not had that chapter here on Gaddafi. If he is going to come to Zimbabwe, we are going to decide collectively to reject or accept him. Again this Parliament, inclusive government, must have a say. I want to disabuse you of the notion that individuals who are not wanted in their countries should never be given asylum because by giving them asylum you allow for change and progress in those countries.

MR. C. C. SIBANDA: My question is directed to the Minister of Parliamentary and Constitutional Affairs. It has been in the press that there are some members of Parliament who have not submitted the Constituency Development Fund. It was said in such manner that when you are in the Constituency even if you submitted, the people will say you did not. Can you update us as to who are those MPs who have not submitted?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, order, the correct title of that Ministry is Constitutional and Parliamentary Affairs. Hon member the last part of your question seeks the minister to give a detailed account of the list of those people who have accounted and those who have not accounted and particular, those who have not accounted. Therefore, I do not think that will be possible for the minister just to give you the list now. I would suggest that given the importance of the question, probably for you to put that question in writing. If the minister feels that he can respond to the earlier part of the question, you are at liberty minister to do so.

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AND CONSTITUTIONAL AFFAIRS (ADV. MATINENGA) : I think I have always made a point in this august House that there are some Members of Parliament who have properly accounted and some who have not. I have been consistent in this respect. I know that there are certain reports in certain publications which meddle in the issue but I can assure members that I have never gave an impression that everybody has not accounted.

If hon. members remember when I was first asked this question, I indicated that 66 Members of Parliament had at that stage made their returns. That is not an answer to say that all members have not. That number has been increasing as time goes on. I appreciate the point you make Mr. Speaker in regards the second question that obviously, I am unable to tell this House who has made returns and who has not. I can assure you that when I left the office today 133 Members of Parliament had been recorded as having filed their returns and if the hon. member so wishes I am quite happy to bring a list and to bring that list before this House.

MR. KANZANA: Thank you Mr. Speaker. Considering that we are only left with three months into a new budget, and I understand that your ministry officials have been going around constituencies auditing, I do not know whether with the remaining three months your officials are going to complete the auditing and whether there are enough resources to complete the audits so that all the members will access their funds in the next three months.

THE MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL AND PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (ADV. MATINENGA): Thank you Mr. Speaker, may I thank the hon. member for the question. Let us understand the two concepts. There is the concept of an audit and the concept of making a return. The two are different. An audit is something which is on-going which is continuous, and whether there are going to be funds made available today to other members and not to others an audit will always be carried out. So, what my ministry is doing is to continuously carry out audits in respect of all constituencies whether a particular member has made a return or not because the two are different. When we are talking about making a return it is now the responsibility of a particular member to do so and that return is made whether there is a return or not.

Let us distinguish between the two. An audit is on going and we have two teams in the ministry which do audits. They are not sufficient and I have said before it is going to be impossible for the two teams to go through all the 210 constituencies for this year. It does not mean that we have done an audit this year so we are not going to do an audit next year or the year after because that is an on going process. In respect of a return the particular member is obliged to make that return. I have said and I will say it again, if you do not make that return then it is up to your constituency to decide whether you are fit to represent them in the next parliament.

MR. SANSOLE: My question is directed to the Minister of Youth Development, Indigenisation and Empowerment. Threats have been made against banks such as Barclays Bank and Standard Chartered Bank to cancel their licences. I would like to know, hon. minister, whether this is the collective position of the government because these pronouncements are at cross roads with the policies of the Ministry of Economic Development. Does that position represent the collective position of government?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER OF YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, INDIGENISATION AND EMPOWERMENT (MR. MATUTU): I would like to thank the hon. member for posing that question. First of all let me point out that the issue of indigenisation has become contentious and to some extent it is getting polarised. However, what the hon. member should really appreciate is that the Ministry of Youth Development, Indigenisation and Empowerment does not revoke licences. It enforces compliance in terms of the regulations and as far as I am concerned the matter and spirit of that communication was to make sure that the relevant banking institutions submit their returns, but as to whether or not their licences are going to be revoked I believe that the relevant authority in the form of the Reserve Bank Governor has issued a sufficient statement as to whether the licence is going to be revoked.

However I would like to assure the hon. member that that issue has since been resolved and the parties have since reengaged and also the threshold has been agreed on the banking sector. Thank you.

MRS. MANGAMI: My question is directed to the Minister of Water Development and Management. What is your ministry's policy regarding exorbitant bills which have been given to residents when they have not been getting water since 2005 for example in Gokwe South, Mapfungautsi residential Area and Nyaradza residential area? I thank you.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, can you switch off your mike. Hon. member, the last part of your question is quite specific and certainly the minister will not know what is happening in those areas that you have mentioned. However there is a policy aspect of the question that the minister may respond to.

THE MINISTER OF WATER RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT AND MANAGEMENT (MR. S. NKOMO): I will only respond to the policy part of the question. The Water Act provides that the ministry will provide clean and safe water to every citizen of the country. The provision of water requires infrastructure to be in place which brings water to the citizen. The onus is on the citizen to pay for the services that is provided. There is no need for you to pay any bill when you have not received the service. It is quite clear to me that there is no way that you can pay a lawyer who has not represented you. There is no need for you to pay for electricity which you have not received. There is no need for you to pay for water which you have not received. So it is quite clear there is no payment without any service that has been delivered. I thank you Mr. Speaker.

MRS. MANGAMI: So what is your advice to those who have received such bills when there is no water?

THE MINISTER OF WATER RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT AND MANAGEMENT (MR. S. NKOMO): Thank you hon. member for the supplementary question. I will refer to myself, I will not tell you what to do. If I have received a bill and I have not received any service for the charge that has been levied to me, first of all I will go to the institution that billed me and say I have not received this service and therefore would you mind withdrawing your bill because you have not given me the service for which you claim for this money. You find that they are pursuing you for the Bill which you question, you have to then take a step further to the higher authority in the Ministry. But you need to be sure because we have situations where people have said that they did not receive water and they brought bills. We have gone to check the meter - they would have received water. One needs to be sure that they have not received water. Hon member, if you and your constituency have any queries, you are free to approach me so that we can help each other.

MR. J.M GUMBO: Mr. Speaker, I sympathize with the Minister in that he has a difficult in making it clear to the nation. We as representatives of the people are faced with that problem nationwide and we cannot all visit the local authority offices and present complaints. What is the government policy or your Ministry's policy regarding this? You pointed out ZESA, it is the same - today we are talking to you as the Minister of Water, what is your policy regarding instances were people receive bills but they did not receive full service. They receive a gallon or two after two or three months and they are billed - I get an accumulation of bills for this. That is what we are facing as a country. What are you doing as a Ministry in order to arrest this situation?

MR. S. S. NKOMO: If hon. members remember, this question was asked sometime last year and I made a statement as I have made earlier on.

I do not think I have any difficult in being clear. Perhaps the hon. member has difficulties in understanding what I am saying. Government policy is very clear on this - you do not pay for a service which you did not receive. The onus is on you - if you have received a bill and you have not received the water, all ZINWA authorities or stations are told by us that they cannot bill a person if the water did not come through.

What I know is that they bill people for fixed charges when they have not received water. Even for that, we have said that the charge should only be there if water is flowing through the pipe. If your constituency has problems, the hon. member is free to approach me and we can help each other in those circumstances.

MR. MATSHALAGA: My question is directed to the Minister of Water Resources Development. Is it Ministry's policy to enforce payments of water bills through cutting of essential services, particularly in life saving institutions, particularly hospitals?

THE MINISTER OF WATER RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT AND MANAGEMENT (MR. S. S. NKOMO): The answer is no.

MR. MUDIWA: My question is directed to the Deputy Prime Minister. In Manicaland, the Governor has directed all the donor communities to deal with the office of the Governor, the DA and Chiefs leaving out all elected members. Is this government policy?

THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER (PROF MUTAMBARA): I want to thank the hon. member for that question and I think a much more specific answer will come from the Minister of Local Government. I will speak at policy level. The Governor, the DAs, Chiefs and MPs are members of the governance for the framework of the country. They should be working together to service the people. There should be no war between the MP, the Governor and their province because they are serving the same people. There should be harmony between the Governor and the MP so that we can effectively service our people.

MR. KANZAMA: My question is directed to the Minister of Technology, Mr. Chamisa. First and foremost, I would like to thank you for giving Ministers lap tops. As members of your team, are we also going to benefit?

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION, COMMUNICATION AND TECHNOLOGY (MR. CHAMISA): I would like to thank Hon. Kanzama for that profitable question. I want to start by saying that when we distributed computers to Ministers, it was not just a father Christmas gesture, but a development anchored on our quest to make sure that we are connected government wise.

Our thrust is to make sure that government is connected and from a policy perspective, the government is connecting. For us to do that, we want to capture the hands of those who are governing and obviously Ministers form part of the whole gamut of people charged with governance. To that extend, we are in the process of working out a modality to extend the same facility to Members of Parliament and Senators. The reason we are doing that is not because we want to have charity within Government. We believe that if our policy makers are equipped with the right tools in this information age, they are not going to be mere passengers in terms of the information revolution that we are having in the world. They will also be able to communicate in their communities, especially the Constituency Development Fund - it is going to be very important for you to be connected for purposes of managing the way funds are being used or distributed.

We have launched, as a Government, what we call the Zim Connect document. The Zim Connect concept is a concept to make sure that the whole government has a handshake with the whole world. The whole Government is able to provide Government services on line.

Birth certificates should not be found at just the RG's office. We must have passports in Bulawayo and birth-certificates in Tsholotsho, on line you apply there and you get them. Convenience is all we stand for as ICTs and this is why we should celebrate not just computers but celebrate the Internet age because the Internet of things demands that, even as a Member of Parliament, you will not be able to do your report backs without a lap-top. If you do not have a lap-top, you are not connected on internet and you are a Member of Parliament, you must know that your chances of being unelected are very high.

Questions Without Notice interrupted by MR. SPEAKER in terms of Standing Order No. 34.

MOTION

APPOINTMENT OF THE PRIVILEGES COMMITTEE

THE MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL AND PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS: Mr. Speaker, I stand to move for the appointment of the Privileges Committee.

Mr. Speaker Sir, pursuant to your ruling on 4 August, 2011 that there is a prima facie case of breach of privilege on the matter relating to Mr. Gwaradzimba's statements regarding the Committee on Mines and Energy, I move that the matter be referred to a Committee on Privileges to be appointed by the Committee on Standing Rules and Orders.

Motion put and agreed to.

ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS WITH NOTICE

THE MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL AND PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS: Mr. Speaker Sir, we normally, at this stage, have Ministers' answers to Questions with Notice but I notice that the Ministers who should be answering to questions with notice are conspicuous by their absence. Consequently I move for the adjournment of the debate.

I beg your pardon Mr. Speaker, I am told that there is the acting Minister of the Public Service.

POLICY REGARDING UNEMPLOYED

TRAINED NURSES AND TEACHERS

2. MR. C. C. SIBANDA asked the Minister of Public Service what the Government policy is with regard to the trained nurses and teachers who are not employed after completion of their courses.

THE ACTING MINISTER OF PUBLIC SERVICE (MR. CHAMISA): I was supposed to give responses I think about a month ago, unfortunately at that particular point in time I was just acting when the esteemed great Hon. Prof. Mukonoweshuro was on sick leave, I could not because of extenuating circumstances but be that as it may, I will read the responses.

I want to start by thanking Hon. Sibanda for the question posed. Nurses are trained by the Ministry of Health and Child Welfare and on employment they are governed by the Health Service Act. Therefore, issues concerning nurses are better and best handled by the Hon Minister of Health and Child Welfare.

However, I need to emphasise that the teachers are governed by the Public Service Act which is administered by this Ministry through the Public Service Commission. The recruitment of teachers through the various institutions has been decentralised to the Head of Ministry for Education, Sport, Arts and Culture which recruits teachers subject to availability of vacancies and funding. Issues of teacher deployment, filling and non-filling of vacant posts are better handled again by the Minister of Education, Sport, Arts and Culture.

Student teachers and those not yet employed by the Government do not come under the purview of the Public Service Act. It should be noted However, that the training of teachers falls under the Ministry of Higher and Tertiary Education who train according to projected needs.

AGREEMENT BETWEEN CIVIL SERVANTS

REPRESENTATIVES AND GOVERNMENT WITH

REGARD TO SALARY INCREMENTS

3. MRS. SHIRICHENA asked the Minister of Public Service to inform the House what agreement there is between Civil Servants representatives and the government with regard to their salary increments as a way of ensuring that the workers do not go on strike.

THE ACTING MINISTER OF PUBLIC SERVICE (MR. CHAMISA): I am sure you will agree that this question is already overtaken by time because at that particular point in time, there was going to be some discussion and negotiations at the Joint National Negotiation Council(NJNC) which has since been done. In fact, there was a meeting on the 1 st of July and there was an agreement in terms of increase which was on the 1st of July, 2011 but suffice to say there is going to be the next review of the 2012 which shall be done with the National Consultative Process through the NJNC during the budgetary preparation process, which is currently under way to ensure that an agreed position is reached before January 2012.

As regards the rural and education allowances, there remains outstanding issues and will be considered when resources permit.

Government and Worker representatives should have, as a matter of advice and hygiene, regular meetings to discuss other related NJNC business and service delivery issues. With that, I wish the Member a very satisfactory understanding of the issue. I also want to say the Government itself has been working very hard to try and alleviate some of the problems bedeviling the workers and is implementing the following non-monetary incentives. The first one is the housing loans through the Ministry of National Housing and Social Amenities.

The second one is the Motor Vehicle Purchase Scheme through CMED (PVT) Limited. I am sure civil servants are now benefiting on this one. The third one is the residential accommodation for civil servants. When you are in the civil service, we have put in place a mechanism that you have a decent roof over your head. We believe that democracy begins with a decent roof and we believe that housing defines what development is about.

The other issue is health and safety at the workplace. The Government assured public servants that in coming with the July - December 2011 increment, the figures have been influenced by the desire to reach at least half of the Poverty Datum Line (PDL) which currently stands at US$502.00.

Hon. members, let me say that the threat of a strike by civil servants has been overtaken by events, after the NJNC signed an agreement accepting Government's offer.

Public servants have now received their salary increment as stated in the agreement with the least paid getting US$253.00 with effect from 1 July 2011.

CIVIL SERVICE AUDIT

4. MR. CROSS asked the Minister of Public Service to inform the House when results of the Civil Service Audit would be published and to state the reasons why the implementation of the recommendations contained therein have been stalled.

THE MINISTER OF INFORMATION COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY (MR. CHAMISA): The Payroll and Skills Audit was completed in August 2010, with the assistance of Auditors from Ernst and Young, India. The Audit report was produced and submitted to the Principals in November 2010. Thereafter, Cabinet directed the Inter-Ministerial Committee to come up with an agreed way forward on the implementation of the Audit findings and recommendations. It was found necessary for the Auditors to present their findings to the Inter-Ministerial Committee (IMC), Public Service Commission and Health Services Board. The Audit Report, Volume I of III was presented to the IMC and other relevant stakeholders during the period 9 to 11 May 2011. Based on the Auditors' recommendations, it was found necessary that a verification exercise be undertaken. Accordingly, a verification exercise and input from the Public Service Commission and Health Services Board will be submitted to Cabinet for its consideration.

ALLOCATION OF RESOURCES

TO CHILONGA IRRIGATION SCHEME

11. MR. SITHOLE asked the Minister of Water Resources Development and Management to inform the House:

i). What resources have been allocated to Chilonga Irrigation Scheme in Chiredzi District and;

ii). What improvements have been done to increase production at the scheme.

THE MINISTER OF WATER RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT AND MANAGEMENT (MR. S. S. NKOMO): Thank you Mr. Speaker Sir. I would like to thank Mr. Sithole for the question and I want to apologize that it took me so long to respond. I sincerely apologise. The question Mr. Speaker says what resources have been allocated to Chilonga Irrigation Scheme in Chiredzi district. My answer is that the last time the irrigation scheme received a boost was in 2004 when ZINWA was allocated some ZW$761 633 495.31 and the pumps were purchased from JNCS Private Limited and one of the old pumps was taken for repairs.

The scheme was run for 5 years before it developed problems. As it is, two pumps are operational, though some are failing due to old age. Due to age, two pumps on duty are pumping 152 cubic meters per hour against the 475 cubic meters per hour.

On what improvements have been done to increase production at the scheme; because of the problems that are beginning to emanate from ZINWA, it has put this irrigation scheme on the 2012 PSIP for funding. All is in place and if the funds are made available, the scheme will be expanded by an additional 19 hectares to make it 60. Again the extending to the refurbishment of the old pump house and new pumps will be purchased and a new pipe line, approximately 1,5 km long and 450 meters in diameter will be put in place.

A total of US$200 000 will be required to fund this scheme. We have identified this scheme and put it under PSIP and we are going to receive the money to carry out these repairs to bring this irrigation scheme to a valuable condition. Again I thank you.

MOTION

ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE

THE MINISTER OF CONSTITUTIONAL AND PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (ADV. MATINENGA): It is now quite apparent that none of the ministers who are supposed to be answering the remaining questions are in the House. I therefore move that the House do now adjourn.

Motion put and agreed to.

The House adjourned at Twenty-Five Minutes to Four o'clock p.m. until Tuesday, 20th September, 2011.

 

 

 

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