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SENATE HANSARD 13 APRIL 2016 VOL 25 no 43

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PARLIAMENT OF ZIMBABWE

Wednesday, 13th April, 2016

The Senate met at Half-past Two o’ clock p.m.

PRAYERS

(THE DEPUTY PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE in the Chair)

ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE HON. DEPUTY PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE

BILL RECEIVED FROM THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY

          THE HON. DEPUTY PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE: I have to inform the Senate that I have received the Manicaland State University of Applied Sciences Bill [H.B 8:2015] from the National Assembly.

MOTION

PRESIDENTIAL SPEECH: DEBATE ON ADDRESS

          First Order read: Adjourned debate on motion in reply to the Presidential Speech.

          Question again proposed.

          HON. SENATOR MASUKU: I move that the debate do now adjourn.

          HON. SENATOR BHOBHO: I second.

Motion put and agreed to.

          Debate to resume: Thursday, 14th April, 2016.

MOTION

BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

          HON. SENATOR KOMICHI: I move that Order of the Day Number 2 be stood over until the rest of the Orders of the Day have been disposed of.

          HON. SENATOR A. SIBANDA: I second.

          Motion put and agreed to.

MOTION

REPORT OF THE 133RD ASSEMBLY OF THE INTERPARLIAMENTARY UNION (IPU)

          Third Order read: Adjourned debate on motion on the Zimbabwe Delegation Report on the 133rd Assembly of the Inter-Parliamentary Union (IPU) held in Geneva, Switzerland.

          Question again proposed.

          HON. SENATOR B. SIBANDA: Thank you Mr. President for giving me this opportunity to contribute to the issues raised by the chiefs and the delegation that went to Geneva. First of all, I would like to thank the delegation for representing Zimbabwe on that international platform and give special thanks to the leader of the delegation, Hon. President of the Senate.

          I would like to address myself to two issues that arise out of the report. The first issue I want to deal with is the question of migration, particularly migration from Africa. I submit that Africa is endowed with a range of natural resources that are found below the surface of the earth. It also enjoys in some areas good rainfall that should ensure that we are self sufficient in food, therefore able to sustain a variety of industries that we should generate out of our numerous resources, both mineral and agricultural.

          It is therefore sad, that a significant amount of immigrants that include women and children suffer the consequences of crossing the Sahara in order to look for what they consider to be a better life in Europe. It is my sincere belief that as we develop as Africans, we should be seeking to change the direction of the trend of migration from Europe to Africa as we offer them sanctuary, because I believe that we are more endowed than Europe is, particularly with natural resources. It would also support our belief of avoiding or talking against neo-colonialism because I understand and I want to believe that neo-colonialism addresses our own self sufficiency; our ideological beliefs and identity as a people. Our cause is not supported when we lose the genius of our people who eventually move to Europe.

          I therefore, urge that African governments concentrate their effort in utilising the resources that God has endowed our continent with. Secondly, that we improve our governance systems so that it is comfortable to remain in your own continent or country. Those of us who have lived as foreigners previously will testify that it is not an enjoyable situation to be a foreigner in any land. I strongly feel that we must do a lot of introspection as Africa and ensure that we create an environment that allows our children to remain within this continent. If we look at our own country and the level of migration that has taken place, estimated at above or close to 5 million, you will note Mr. President, that a lot of the people who are migrating are well educated; that is our investment which is leaving its natural habitat and going to improve the economies of other countries.

          I would like now to address the issue of the oversight role of Parliament over the Executive, which is dealt with adequately in the report. I do not have a lot of comments, but I have got questions that I think we must ask ourselves as Parliamentarians. Are we playing an effective role in our land in terms of our oversight role over the Executive? Are we not sometimes appendages of the same Executive that we should be performing oversight on? Thirdly, what does the whipping system do to our potential to exercise an oversight role on the Executive? I believe that it may compromise our role.

Finally, we are dependent on the financial resources that are collected and disbursed at the end of the day by the Executive. What does that do to our oversight role? Can we receive financial resources and be prepared to adequately put them to question. Mr. President, with those few words, I would like to applaud our Committee, I know they were short in numbers but I understand they acquitted themselves excellently at the conference. I thank you.

HON. SEN. MASUKU: I move that the debate do now adjourn.

HON. SEN. BHEBHE: I second.

Motion put and agreed to.

Debate to resume: Thursday, 14th April, 2016.

MOTION

REHABILITATION OF WAR SHRINES AND RECOGNITION OF DEPARTED WAR LIBERATORS

          Fourth Order read: Adjourned debate on motion calling for rehabilitation and maintenance of War Shrines.

Question again proposed.

HON. SEN. MASUKU: I move that the debate do now adjourn.

HON. SEN. BHEBHE: I second.

Motion put and agreed to.

Debate to resume: Thursday, 14th April, 2016.

MOTION

CONGRATULATORY MESSAGE TO HIS EXCELLENCY THE PRESIDENT AS CHAIRMAN OF AFRICAN UNION

Fifth Order read: Adjourned debate on motion to congratulate His Excellency, the President Cde. R. G. Mugabe and the Government of Zimbabwe on successfully leading the African Union (AU) and Southern Africa Development Community (SADC) as Chairperson.

Question again proposed.  

HON. SEN. MASUKU: I move that the debate do now adjourn.

HON. SEN. BHEBHE: I second.

Motion put and agreed to.

Debate to resume: Thursday, 14th April, 2016.

MOTION

REPORT OF THE ZIMBABWE DELEGATION TO THE 38TH PLENARY ASSEMBLY OF THE SADC PARLIAMENTARY FORUM

        Sixth Order read: Adjourned debate on motion on the Zimbabwe Delegation Report on the 38th Plenary Assembly of the SADC-Parliamentary Forum, Sea Side Hotel and SPA, Swakopmund, Namibia, 17th to 25th November, 2015.

Question again proposed.

HON. SEN. MASUKU: I move that the debate do now adjourn.

HON. SEN. BHEBHE: I second.

Motion put and agreed to.

Debate to resume: Thursday, 14th April, 2016.

MOTION

TRADITIONAL CHIEFS MANDATE

Seventh Order read: Adjourned debate on motion on the role of traditional leaders.

Question again proposed.

+HON. SEN. BHEBHE: I thank you Mr. President, for the opportunity that you have given me to contribute to the motion on traditional leaders. I would like to thank Hon. Sen. Mawire who moved the motion and the seconder. Mr. President Sir, debating on traditional leaders in Zimbabwe, Hon. Members have contributed what is expected of traditional leaders. I will also contribute but a little of what I have.

When I look at traditional leaders, I see them as people who should be respected in the country. We should not be afraid of them but should just give them respect and we are able to do things together. Traditional leaders should be given opportunities to do their own work as is their status. Sometimes, we just look down upon them. It is important that we give them their rightful place for them to perform their duties.

Of late, it has not been quite clear whether they are traditional leaders. It was realised that traditional leaders should be given their respect and place. This why there is a Chiefs’ Council for them to earn their respect. People have said that there be a Chiefs’ Commission where they can teach each other right from the top, cascading downwards because we do not talk of traditional leaders only, but also of village heads. That is where all things begin. Traditional leaders should look into the welfare of the people even when people have differences. They should look into those matters and remonstrate the people.

I wish there could be some education which include ordinary people and traditional leaders so that people can be taught how to relate and what should be expected of people when traditional leaders are there. When a child is at home and is disrespectful, the issue should be addressed. Ordinary people should know that their traditional leaders have a mandate to give them instruction of what to do and what not to do. I have observed as well that traditional leaders and church leaders do not agree. The traditional leader would say he does not want people to work in the fields on a Wednesday and this is a result of the difference in beliefs between the church leader and the traditional leader. We should respect what comes from the traditional leader and not dispute that. People should always cooperate and move along with what is obtaining.

Many Hon. Senators have contributed towards this motion about traditional leaders and I saw it befitting that I also make my few contributions, that it is important for traditional leaders to be given their due respect. If there are differences, we should solve those amicably because these are the traditional leaders who are supposed to remonstrate with us.

Petty crimes should not be referred to the police; that is the purview of traditional leaders. Let us use traditional leaders in their areas of jurisdiction so that we help each other. Mr. President, I do not have much to say, I thank you.

HON. SEN. MASUKU: I move that the debate do now adjourn

HON. SEN MLOTSHWA: I second.

Motion put and agreed to.

Debate to resume: Thursday, 14th April, 2016.

On the motion of SENATOR MASUKU seconded by SENATOR MLOTSHWA, the Senate adjourned at Ten Minutes to Three o’clock p.m.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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