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Wednesday, 28th November, 2012.

The Senate met at Half-past Two o'clock p.m.



THE DEPUTY CLERK OF PARLIAMENT: In terms of Standing Orders, I have to advise the Senate that the President of the Senate, the Deputy President and the Chairperson of Committees are not present. In terms of Standing Orders, the Senate shall proceed to elect an Acting President. I now call for nominations for the Acting President.



SENATOR DETE: I nominate Senator Mohadi.


THE DEPUTY CLERK OF PARLIAMENT : There being no further nominations, Senator Mohadi will take the Chair.






THE ACTING PRESIDENT: I have to inform the Senate that the Women's University in Africa has requested to have a meeting with Senators and Parliament Staff following the signing of the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU). The purpose of the meeting is to explain WUA's plans and to find out hon. members' expectations. The meeting will be held in the Senate Chamber on Thursday 29th November 2012, commencing at 0900hrs.


THE ACTING PRESIDENT: May I remind hon. senators to switch off their cellphones before Commencement of business.



THE DEPUTY MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS: I move that Orders of the Day, Numbers 1 and 2 be stood over until all the Orders of the Day have been disposed of.

Motion put and agreed to.



Third Order read: Adjourned debate on motion in reply to the Presidential Speech.

Question again proposed.

*SENATOR MANYERUKE: Thank you Madam President for giving me the opportunity to debate the Presidential Speech. I want to thank Senator Mtshane and Senator Mohadi. I also want to thank the President for the information that he gave us, of what is happening in our country. He talked about agriculture, the roads and the issue of women, that they should be empowered as we are facing elections. We are also looking forward to an increase in representation of women in Parliament, but what we want to ask for here is the issue of conflict that happens in our areas. We want to request this august Senate that there should be less violence and if there are, people loitering here and there, that is what normally causes violence. So my plea to this Senate is that we avoid violence at all cost in the forthcoming elections. Thank you.

*SENATOR DETE Thank you Madam President for giving me this opportunity to air my view on the plans that were set before us in this House by the President of Zimbabwe. I want to thank those who moved this motion, Senator Mtshane seconded by Senator Mohadi.

Firstly, I want to talk about agriculture. We want to thank the President for showing concern on the issue of agriculture in Zimbabwe because agriculture is the mainstay of our economy. We can say that the economy of Zimbabwe is built on agriculture. We also appeal to banks that they must also hear what the President said so that they can assist by giving loans to farmers. When people borrow money, they face problems because they do not have collateral security, but the President insisted that we go to the banks. The President has assisted us with so many inputs in our farming. Most people are complaining because the banks want collateral. What we ask is that, if anyone has an offer letter, it should be used as collateral so that when they engage in agriculture and sell their produce, they can also pay back.

On the issue of Grain Marketing Board (GMB), to date, there are some who are still awaiting money for their produce that they took to GMB. We request that the Ministry of Finance fund the GMB so that the farmers can get their money. GMB cannot pay their money if the Ministry of Finance does not avail the funds. This will enable farmers to buy fertilizer and seed for the next farming season.

The President went on to talk about the veld fires. Our livestock are suffering right now because there is no grass. It has become a practice which is bad. Once you see an area with grass, in no time the grass is no longer there because of the veld fires. My plea to hon. senators is that we should educate our constituents that veld fires will affect our livestock and is not a good practice.

The President also talked about peace. For sure, in this House, we should join hands and maintain peace, especially now when we are heading towards elections, we do not want to hear of children being jailed or engaging in fights. When they engage in such behavior, it is because there are adults behind them, pushing them to engage in violence. If we educate our children to desist from fighting and encourage churches to advocate for peace, showing that all parties, be it ZANU PF or MDC, all want peace, then we can ensure that there is peace in all areas. Thank you.

SENATOR RUGARA: Thank you very much Madam President. First of all I would like to thank the President for giving such a master peace of a presentation. I just took time to look at the very last paragraph. If you have a copy you can read it at home. The last paragraph contains what I would call a master peace. It has a lot of important good things in it.

Let me run down the paragraph. I am not quoting it but am paraphrasing it, I am picking the key words in that paragraph. Firstly, he talked about Zimbabweans bound together as a nation. It is imperative that any nation on earth should be bound together by something. It should be something that binds them together. In our case, the real question of being Zimbabwean should bind us together. It involves patriotism to say that we are Zimbabweans. When he says this, I wish people really took his words in mind and also take these words in their actual context. We also have the development of this country and in the paragraph you will see "yearning for the development of the country" and it is common knowledge that for any country to develop there is unity of purpose. Without that unity, development can not be seen.

So, when the President says this, I hope he means it and for us to develop once more the country for now, the future and for posterity that is for our children and their children. We can not leave a legacy of vandalism because if we are not developing the country we are destroying it, thereby becoming leaders who are vandals. No vandalism please for us as leaders. He goes on to say in that same paragraph which is so pregnant with meaning and with a lot of sense that leaders of parties and organisations be cognisant that they are leaders, be aware that they leave a legacy to people who are here now and who are to come next.

I look at leaders like us who sit here, we are all leaders in our communities, in our constituencies and as leaders we should leave a legacy of love and peace, a legacy of hard work and the bright side of leadership. Then we have organisations such as the ZBC; as an organization what legacy is it leaving this country; a legacy of hate speech, confused agendas and programmes that are set to only plant, grow and water all the confusion and hatred that has been. As organisations; that propagandistic attitude, or behavior, I hope we can tell them or advise them to stop as we are looking at developing the country for now and the future.

Then there is genuine mention of national unity. Madam President, genuine is the word we must watch because it is there. It says genuinely looking at unity. Unity is not division; it is not controversy but pulling together just like the oxen pull in a united manner to get the land worked. If they are not united there is no land planned or prepared and there is no harvest. So if we look at unity again from another angle we look at a choir, we all like to listen to music and music only is music when it is harmonious and sweet to the ear.

When the President says these wonderful words and immediately below him there are some who are instigating disunity, violence and confusion and what comes out of that is a confused and disharmonised choir which can not win a trophy in a competition.

But what have we done, immediately after this wonderful master piece of a speech we got the information that in Kadoma a family was vandalised and brutally assaulted. I am not worried about who did it but I am worried about the Zimbabweans who go out there and inflict pain and hate on other Zimbabweans, that is not unity. It is not what the President is saying. Yet again a leader of stature goes out there and talks about the chiefs supporting a section of the community which is a party. We are not interested in chiefs supporting anybody but they have a community to look after or if you want to call it a constituency that is their constituency. They should be able to look after everyone and not just a few.

Madam President, I called it a masterpiece but at the same time the negatives that are going on day in day out in our community do we hear or understand what the President has said. I would request that as leaders, we go back and read that speech. It is full of wisdom which is what it should be from a statesman of that stature. Read it and say to yourself, am I doing this or not. If you are not, go and do it, go and work for unity and leave a legacy that will always be there in Zimbabwe. I thank you. *SENATOR KATYAMAENZA: Thank you Madam President, I thank you for this opportunity that you have given me to debate this issue; the Presidential Speech which was moved by Senator Chief Mtshane, seconded by Senator Mohadi. I want to look at the first paragraphs, I want to say that the President reminded us that this is our last time to be in this Session. This is our last Session and we should be going for elections in 2013. He also mentioned the way the country was run through the GPA. They have worked well in the GPA although they face challenges but they managed to overcome these challenges. Still on that issue, the President also said that we should not change being Zimbabweans, even if we face different challenges, we should continue to work hard for our country and not desert our country because of hunger. It is like a man who has many children, he runs away to a 'small house' just to run away from his responsibility.

I went ahead and listened to what the President said, he also mentioned that the COPAC Committee was set up; we started with the First All Stakeholders' Conference; then after that, COPAC as a Committee was given the work to do and they engaged in that work and came back to Second All Stakeholders' Conference that actually resulted in a document that was produced which captured the views of the people.

I also want to thank the President on the issue of women which was passed in 2000, that we be given equal of opportunities because everyone was created by God. The difference is, others are men and others are women. He actually said that some women have sharper brains than men that is why you find even our children, for example, when we went to Victoria Falls, the pilot was a woman but they thought women were not capable but she was capable of being a pilot.

We were also challenged to utilise out potential, so I want to thank the President for saying this but I am appealing to him that he continues to uphold this principle because the men actually doubt this and yet we had a woman pilot. So we ask the President to continue rallying behind us as women so that as women we can actually engage in some of these courses. Since 2000 when this law was passed women can now engage in any profession they want.

I also want to mention the issue of agriculture; yes we might continue talking about this, what is required in agriculture is for those people in the farms to attain education. Every child is educated; when he goes to ZMA he is taught; even when they go to the Teachers' Colleges they are taught, so our plea as farmers is that we also request for knowledge on how to farm. We might be accused of not knowing how to farm but we can. Firstly we have a problem of electricity and secondly there is no water, now there is climate change in most countries; not in Zimbabwe alone. So our plea to God is that our agriculture should succeed because in our country, to eradicate hunger it is through agriculture.

On the issue of tractors and other inputs, you know that there is nothing being imported into the country due to sanctions. The President also mentioned the issue of sanctions that as the children of Zimbabwe we should fight for these sanctions to be removed. We should fight that children who are working outside the country come back and work for their country not for us to keep their graves here so that they come and be buried in Zimbabwe. We do not want to keep their graves here but that they should bring the knowledge and work for their country.

Madam President, I might say a lot, I also heard the President saying that the journalists are the ones causing problems. Those people who are writing in the media are the ones who are causing violence and confusion, so, what we request is that the media should not perpetrate violence. There should be a paper that actually brings unity to the people so that we can develop as a country. Thank you Madam President.

+SENATOR J DUBE: Madam President, I would like to add my voice on the speech that was delivered by the President during the Official Opening. The motion was moved by Senator Chief Shana, seconded by Senator Mohadi. What I would like to emphasise on is the issue of agriculture especially after the realization that without agriculture, our people will not survive. The President emphasised on the need to support the farmers so as to avoid drought in our nation. I would like to thank the President for the job well done to programmes such as the one that was giving out food to the people which was taken from GMB.

I would like to thank him again for allowing people to get especially maize from GMB. If such programmes were not done people were going to die because of drought especially people from region 5 in Matebelaland. You realise that everyone was excited and they were happy with the programme that was done therefore I emphasise that the Minister of Finance should also try and urge his colleagues - especially this year, we have realised that there is so much drought that we are facing. I agree there are so many areas where there is drought but we have realised there are specific areas that are facing drought. Therefore I am asking and pleading with the Minister of Finance that when you go to GMB they will highlight that food or maize is there but the only challenge they are facing is the issue of transport. Therefore, I urge the Minister of Finance to try and negotiate on their behalf so that at least transport is available. The President highlighted that no one is supposed to die because of drought in the nation of Zimbabwe.

I also want to add my voice on the issue of livestock, I have realised that the Minister always tries to accommodate every Ministry when he is presenting his Budget. He also accommodated the issue of livestock in his Budget that he presented. There is US$700 million that was allocated for restocking of the livestock. I would like to appeal to the Minister of Finance that allocations should be released to the banks not on paper because when people go to the banks they would be told that there is no money. I would also want to thank the President for the programme that was availed for the stock feeds especially in rural areas where people were able to buy 50kg at US$11.

Madam President, the other main problem that people are facing is the challenge of water especially in Gwanda where I come from.

The President highlighted on the need to have water. There are places where they are going to drill boreholes or try to build dams so that we do not face the same problem of having drought next year. We have realised that there is a serious shortage of water, therefore, if there is anything that can be done to solve the problem of water especially in region five, it is a welcome development.

Madam President, I also want to add my voice on the issue of elections. We have realised that the President highlighted so much on the issue of elections that are going to be held in 2013. Therefore, we as citizens of Zimbabwe, as the leaders of the nation we are supposed to lead by example. I urge each and every hon. senator to go and educate people out there, let us go and tell people that they are supposed to live in peace. This is one thing that the President emphasised on. He highlighted that it is only a leader who has no vision of leading the people well who can cause violence and corruption. It is also done by a leader who does not know that we got this country through blood. Therefore, there is great need for us to work together as a team for we are all black people who were born and live in Zimbabwe, we therefore need to uplift our nation.

I also want to add my voice on the issue of the seed that was distributed. We realised that it is almost everyone who has managed to get seed and we realised that when the President highlighted that, he did not say anything specifically to one party, it covered everyone. All of us we came from people, we need to represent our people very well, we need to work for the people, talk about the hunger they are facing. Thank you Madam President.

THE MINISTER OF FINANCE: I move that the debate do now adjourn.

Motion put and agreed to.

Debate to resume: Thursday, 29th November, 2012.



THE ACTING PRESIDENT: I have to inform the Senate that I have received the following Bills from the House of Assembly: The Finance (No. 2), 2013 Bill, (H.B.8, 2012) and The Appropriation (2013) 2012 Bill (H.B. 7, 2012).


FINANCE (NO. 2), 2013 BILL, (H.B.8, 2012)

First Order read: Second Reading: Finance (No. 2) 2013 Bill, (H.B.8, 2012).

THE MINISTER OF FINANCE: Thank you Madam President. Madam President, I understand that we do not have a second Presiding Officer. So we will just present and complete the business tomorrow and to hon. senators, this is just to restate my presentation of the 2013 Budget as I did on the 15th of November 2012, two weeks ago. I want to emphasise the essence of my address in the Lower House on that date. The essence of my address was the following: Number one, that this economy did fairly well between 2009 and 2011. We achieved an average growth rate of 9.4% which in fact, according to the World Bank, not us, was the fastest growing economy in the World between 2009 and 2011. This growth was driven by the economic blue print which the Inclusive Government crafted in March of 2009, STERP, the Short Term Emergency Recovery Programme, which emphasised the following: Number one, Macro Economic Stability. Number two, Supply side recovery, in particular, the target of capacity utilisation from the low levels of 2 to 10 % to the target of 60%. Number three, was the issue of the obligation to look after social deliverables. As all of you know, during our crisis years, schools closed 2007, 2008, children did not go to school, hospitals were not functioning, hospitals were closer. On the health front, we had horrible diseases like cholera, 4 000 Zimbabweans died of cholera while 90 000 were affected. We all remember these things. So you recall that we created in STERP, what was called a specifically targeted vulnerable sector programme, that targeted at communities that were living with HIV/AIDS that targeted child run households; that targeted girl run households, 12 year old girl run households in Zimbabwe at the present moment, that also targeted widows and we have a lot of that in our communities. Then the last pillar of STERP was monetising the peace process, in particular the issue of the Constitution making process. So, we put money into COPAC. Since 2009, the process is still going on to this present stage. However, this nascent recovery so a serious down turn in 2012. The little effect of that Madam President was that we have had to revise downwards our budget in July of 2012 from an anticipated revenue figure of 4 billion dollars to 3.4 billion dollars. We also revised our growth rate in July of 2012, from an anticipated growth rate originally of 9.4% to a revised growth rate of 5.6%. I regret to advise hon. President, that even this 5.6% growth rate which we thought we would achieve at the end of the year, to the end of 2012; we have had to revise it further downwards to 4.4% and the main reason being the following. Number one being the under performance of our revenue. As I said before, our target was 4 billion dollars, we revised it to 3.6 billion dollars but as I said in the Budget Statement, even the 3.6 billion dollars, we are not going to make it. Our anticipated revenue figures to the end of the year will be a mere 3.5 billion dollars. At the epicentre of our non performance of revenues is the under performance of Diamond Revenue. In 2012, we anticipated that we would receive 600 million dollars. We have only received 41 million dollars to date and it is the same amount we received in the entirety of 2012. Yet diamond production in 2012 has increased by 129% and as of August 2012, our diamond exports were 600 million. By diamond exports, I am talking about that we have actually sold and which has been paid and to the extent that we own 50% of Mbada, 50% of Anjin, 50% of DMC. We should have at least have had 300 million dollars, but unfortunately we have only had 4 million dollars and I do not think at the end of the year if I get 10 million dollars, we will be very lucky indeed. The second reason why we have had to revise our growth projections has been the drought that this country faced. The drought that this country faced in 2011 and 2012 agricultural season; we lost a third of our maize crop. We anticipated to receive about 1.4 million metric tones. We have only received 900 000 metric tonnes and all of you know the consequences and hon. senator, you were talking of people starving in each and every corner of Zimbabwe and it is not so much that we do not have grain in the GMB. In fact, as of last week, we actually had 210 000 metric tonnes and some of you know, for the first time, last week we reached the full complementarity of our strategic grain reserve, 500 000 metric tonnes and because we have had that buffer, we were better prepared. Now, the problem is that of transport costs. The problem with this is that we have been paying 4 million a month to transport. We have been saying to GMB please can you rationalise because we are now paying more to transporters than to the actual feeding of the people. What the transporters are charging has no relation at all to the normal transport charges that are recommended by AA and so forth. And again is the mentality of our people that unoda kupfuma musi iwoyo and that this piranha mentality that if you can get a dollar, then you must get 20 dollars and then if you get 20 dollars then you must get 2 billion dollars. No country can develop with this psychology of predatoriness. That was the second thing that affected us.

Then the third thing that affected our growth projections has been, as all of you know, this economy has become over dependent on minerals, on platinum, on gold, on chrome, on nickel and to a lesser extent on diamonds. The prices of platinum, until the Marikana incident in South Africa in August 2012, the price of platinum has collapsed. It has picked after the Marikana, the problems with the South African mines. If the price of our platinum goes down, we also suffer. The price of cotton, our major export crop also suffered globally, as all of you know, from prices of 70 cents now 31 cents, 35 cents and 41 cents. It is because of the global economic crisis. As we sit here right now Europe is burning. We thought we had credits here in Zimbabwe $10.1 billion. Greece is $1.2 trillion. In Zimbabwe if every child who is born has got a credit of $50 000, in Greece you will be having a million dollars which you do not know where it came from in credits. So Europe is burning, Spain is in a crisis, Italy is in a crisis, Portugal is in a crisis and it is now threatening even France and if France catches the diseases, then I can assure you that the EU will collapse and the European Commission.

What worries me is that, I read very closely what they say, Angela Merkel, Ms Lagarde, the head of the IMF. They have no solution. They meet several times and you will see them on CNN and BBC, they have no solution. Also since we are Zimbabweans, why is Europe in a crisis? The reason why Europe is in a crisis is that it was killing a rat and eating an elephant. People were just spending because money was cheap. So they were just borrowing and spending without knowing that one day push will come to shove. Push came to shove in 2008 when a big bank called Lehman Brothers failed on the 15th of September, the very same day that we were signing our global political agreement and things have never been the same. Now money was spent and the only country with money at the present moment is China and China is not prepared to lend money to a country that is not reasonable and this is why we have got this crisis. People were just eating. You can not just eat and not work, it will catch up with you and it has caught up with Europe.

When Europe catches a cold, we also sneeze and so we are suffering. The bulk of our real goods like cotton, tobacco, platinum, gold, chrome, diamonds and nickel is sold in Europe. I think the fourth factor that also affected our GDP projections is the political uncertainty. At the beginning of the year there was so much election talk and it is not that people are worried about the election talk. People are worried about an election where they do not see evidence that Zimbabwe has reformed enough to prevent what happened in 2008.

This is why I was here and two honourable members spoke about the election in 2013. In 2013, for our projections, we think that our economy will grow by 5% but as I said in the Lower House, our biggest fear is elections. Not so much the elections themselves but if Zimbabweans do not heed the call of their leaders for a peaceful election, even this 5% will not achieve it. As I said in the Budget statement, it will be a case of a one step forward and twenty steps backwards but what I know is that I travelled extensively when I did budget consultations. There is no province that I did not go. Mashonaland Central, Mashonaland East, Mashonaland West and in Mashonaland West, we had a very good meeting in Chinhoyi, Gweru, Kwekwe and Nyanga.

There is one thing that people of Zimbabwe are saying Zimbabweans about you honourable members. You know what,they are telling you that we are tired of you guys. If it was possible for them to be given a chance to beat you, they would certainly do so neshamhu because they are tired. People want to send their children to school. People want to ensure that their wives and husbands are going to hospitals. People want to make sure that their children have got jobs. People want to know that farmers are farming and that there is electricity, the roads are good and not the roads that I referred to in the budget statement, the Flora Buka's roads. So it is very important that we have peaceful elections next year. Both the Prime Minister and the President spoke on this point.

What I said in the Lower House was that this economy under-performed in 2009. The problem with our economy is that since 1960, most economies go through periods of booms and slumps. So most economies are like VWs. You know a VW. You write the V and the W and it is up and down, up and down. Ours is like an M. It is like you go up and then you drop. It is actually a U whereby you first go up and then you go down and keep going down for a long time and then you go up again. So whereas most economies are VWs, ours is a U. Murikupanzwa here ipapo? What it means is that our economy is prone to sustained periods of depression and then it ups, then we go into sustained periods of depression whereas most economies are Ws, ours is a U and that is a disaster.

The most successful economies like China are Ms. Long periods of flat and then you drop a bit like right now they are feeling it but long periods of sustenance. We have a problem and if you trace the history of this country from 1960, you will see these Us. We had a growth from 2009 to 2011, in 2012, are we falling into the bottom of that U? We think that unless we do certain measures, we will fall into that U. This Budget Statement was intended to reverse the threatened decline so that we do not have a U but we have an M. In the worst case scenario, we have a W. Mapanzwisisaka ipapo? Saka ndipo pane nyaya ipapo.

How do we convert this threatening U into an M and not a VW but into an M? This is what we said. We came up with a 15 point plan in the budget and I will not read and I said we have to make the correct decisions as Zimbabweans and we have to find a vision. The 15 point plan can be reduced into four things:

1. Food security and agriculture. We put in $159m into agriculture but that agriculture also includes water. So whatever we give to Minister Sipepa Nkomo is also part of agriculture. It also includes the issue of land. Whatever we give to Hon. Senator Murerwa, it is also part of agriculture.

2. We also put a lot of money into roads because farmers need roads. We put a lot of money into electricity but for agriculture, I want to talk about the problems that the Hon. Senator was talking about.

3. First is the issue of animal disease control and management. We put $5.9 million, Extension Service we put $7 million, Training and Research we put $6.4. Training and research is very important. Senator you were talking about the change in the weather. We do not understand it. We are still using seed maize that was designed for the normal seasons that all of us grew knowing, that you plant in October. Nowadays even if you plant in February, you will reap. In fact, you have got a danger if you plant before 15 December, you will be having a problem but if you plant after 15 December you are guaranteed but the scientists have to tell us which is why we put money into the strategic grain reserve, the GMB. I am pleased to say that we have paid every farmer what we owed through GMB.

In the last two months we have paid $54.3 million. Sadly for Zimbabwe most deliveries for the 2012, 2013 season are over. People are no longer delivering and that means that we have to look for maize to build in the maize stock and which is why we have given our import our millers, National Foods, NAT Food, Blue Ribbon the licence to import grain not hupfu but grain.

For livestock, you will be aware honourable members that we released $3 million to try and serve the livestock in Matabeleland. This money was used to buy stock feed and fodder. This money was used to sink boreholes and this money was used to transport and transfer livestock from the dry areas into the green areas.

We have provided an additional $7 million for restocking. Farmers will be able to go to a bank and borrow and buy additional livestock. We have also put money for irrigation and in every province we are going to rehabilitate two irrigation schemes. I have got their names here, but I am not going to read them. So that is on agriculture and food security, but we are also saying banks must put their money into it and I am pleased to say that this is the following money that is at banks; Agri-bank has got US$15 million, please go and borrow it. CBZ has got US$20 million, please go and borrow it and then we issue US$25 for Bills. Agri-bank also has got US$10 million from the IDC of South Africa and other banks, Standard bank, Barclays bank, Merchant Bamk of South Africa have got US$140 million.

But on policy issues, we are still saying, number one, that the long lease, that '99' year lease must be there which can securitised and hypothecated. Farmers need security that apa ndepangu apa and some farmers need to know that they can go and borrow, so we need the long lease and the restoration of land rights and private market for land. Number two, we are also saying there must be a commodity exchange or a commodity market in Zimbabwe. The reason why tobacco is the most successful crop is that farmers grow their tobacco and they sell it at the auction floor, get their money and buy whatever they buy. So next year, Government has agreed that it is going to bring a commodity exchange in Zimbabwe. GMB takes two years before it has paid; at least we have paid for this current crop. So to prevent that, let us create an auction for maize where a farmer will take his 2/3 tonnes of maize and go straight to the market. We used to have it Vana amai, what used to be called Zimmaize, so it is going to be there next year. Also the unfortunate thing about GMB is that once it locks a price, it would have locked a price. This year it was US$295 per tone, last year it was US$285 per tonne. In 2009, it was US$270. So even if there is a shortage, the price does not go up but with the market now, it is supply and demand. If there is a shortage, the price goes up but if there is glut, the price also goes down. Yavanjuga, but that is what all markets do.

This year for instance, we failed to meet our tobacco target of 150 million kgs, we produced 145 million kgs, but because the price was so good, an average of US$3.88c per kg, farmers did very well and we realised US$500 million from tobacco a smaller crop because of the market. So we are saying, Government must get out of maize, except the input, but when it comes to sell, people should be able to sell at this market and everyone can buy zvatinongoitawokufodya and I also hope that can also happen to cotton because part of the problem of cotton is that the person who sponsors is the person who buys at the price that he or she wants. So why can we not have a market for cotton?

The other thing which I have mentioned for agriculture which is important is the issue of research and extension. Tirikutya nyaya yema GMO's yet we eat GMO's every day. The average yield in Zimbabwe for maize, last year was 77kgs, 0,77tonnes per hectare. This year we improved slightly, it is now 1 tonne per hectare, but most of you here of elderly disposition, you know that it used to be 3, 5 tonnes per hectare for a communal farmer, 7 tonnes per hectare for a commercial farmer. In fact those commercial farmers who were clever could reach 12 to 15 tones. So what are those factors which have made our yield go down? Even those with water panemumwe shefu I can not disclose his name but anopfeka tumagirazi anongoti mbe mbe muCabinet umu. He is not Chinamasa but his neighbour, his hectarage is 4 tonnes per hectare, which he disclosed himself. Kamwe kamudhara kango reba rebawo. Communal farmer, years ago was 3, 5 per hectare, so we need to re-visit the issue of GMO's.

I come to the second thing, which is how do we create employment in this country? I said the first thing is food security, the second thing is industrialisation and job creation. The problem with Zimbabwe is that our economy is still structured in the same manner that Cecil Rhodes left it in 1907 when he was buried at Matopos. We produce platinum, we sell it outside, we produce gold and sell it outside, we produce tobacco we sell it outside, and we produce cotton and sell it outside. So this economy is still structured or based on extraction. You just extract and send it outside. There is no country that has developed on that model. Countries develop because they extract from the soil, then add value themselves. So if it is platinum, platinum is used to make vehicles through catalytic conductors, we should have our own vehicle called chibadura 405/6. If it is cotton, I went to Bulawayo the other day, David Whitehead is a museum, Julie White is a museum. When I grew up, I used to know there is a famous shirt called Van-Hussen and anyone who came to Zimbabwe aitobva ne Van-HussenI used to know that towels in Zimbabwe were good, it is not the case anymore Merlin in Bulawayo is now a ghost town. We have to have value addition. The things that come from our soil must be value added here, which is why we pushing the issue of cluster development. Manicaland is famous for soft wood. Boarder Timbers is exporting soft wood to German which comes as an expensive piece of furniture. If you look at this furniture that is here in Parliament, I think this is hard wood, it was made from our wood but I can tell you we bought this from South Africa. Why can we not have a factory in Hwange or Victoria Falls which makes this from our teak? So Matebeleland can be a harb for hardwood for eco-tourism. There are so many animals in Mat-North, Sinamatela, Matsetse, Hwangwe Safari Lodge and so forth and of course the Great Victoria Falls. So many tourists are going to Victoria Falls, let us make it an offshore banking centre like Mauritius, Seychelles and Botswana. Tourists are just coming with their bodies, so you bring your body, fat as it is and you leave your money as well. We do not ask you where the money is coming from as long it is not from drugs and terrorism. I am pleased to say right now Cabinet is considering amendments to the Banking Act that will allow Victoria Falls to become an offshore harb and that it is very important. All countries that have become offshore harbs have developed on other people's money because it will be in your own country. Mabillion iwaya ematsotsi, mozonokwereta manje,vanajopa. Mapawona ipapo? So we are trying to do that.

Cluster development is very important, in Manicaland they have soft wood, they have diamonds, there is a village in India called Gujarat, I have been there it is a real village, it is now employing 60 000 people who are polishing our own diamonds, who are cutting our own diamonds. Can you imagine if we were to create 60 000 jobs in Manicaland at the present moment. Recently I have been to a funeral, so ndazoti this is a sign of unemployment, because if you see so many people at a funeral, kune kwandakuenda kumariro manje manje, tanga takazara kumariro iwayo, VaFemai munokuziva kumariro iwayo. Ndazoti aa-a this is a sign of unemployment because ukaona vanhu vakazara pamariro na11am, it means marovha akaita sei? Akawanda. Imagine if we were to create 60 thousand jobs. Masvingo ine nzimbe, why tisiri kuita sugar muno nemakeke, zvese zvinobuda musugar? Sugar has got so many by-products including glue, fuel, alcohol, how much green fuel can we make from that? Tokwe-Murkosi is going to be there, we are going to complete it by October. It is going to be a huge dam, second only to Kariba. What happens at Kariba? There is tourism, tiger fishing, so,uku kune tiger fishing, uku toisa bream fishing toita mainternational competition, malodge, vanozviti vane mari vana Hon. Hlalo , vanoda tumaboat, tovaisira tumagolf course ikoko. On Friday, I was kwaGutu, kuRasa tichiviga amai vaInnocent Chagonda. Ikoko, you can do eco-tourism, you can have wild animals in the South, mablack rhino, giraffe and so on. There is also beef in Masvingo. Mashonaland East,kwaMutoko, I live in Enterprise road, everyday unoona vanamai vakakwira tumatruck, mazuva ano twave tudikika tumaToyota Grandiatuya, vakarembera mai pakatruck kakazara nematomato. Why can we not have a tomato Heinz factory inonzi Budya Past vanamai ndimi munobika. Vanongouya votengesa kuMbare Musika, zvakazara zvinongoora, makabichi, onion and so on. Therefore, Mashonaland East and Mutoko can be the centre of a vegetable processing industry in Zimbabwe. Ndiyo value addition kwete extraction yekuti madzupura, zvabuda kunze, I think Cecil Rhodes arikungoseka kuti makaita independence but hamusati mave economically independent. Economic independence will come when we change our accumulation model from extraction to value addition, ndiyo inonzi value addition.

We are also saying we need Foreign Direct Investment (FDI). Hakuna nyika yakabudirira isina FDI. MaSmall and Medium Enterprises (SMEs) akakosha. Pane zvinhu zviviri ipapo, tine informal sector neSME, these two are not the same, let us make the informal sector part of the SMEs and let us make the SMEs grow into a fully fledged industry. We have given USD20million for the informal sector and the SMEs. SME haidhureka kustarter. Iyezvino mota dzati ngwarangwanda, you can buy a kombi for USD5000.00 to USD6000.00 wozonobribawozvako ku Ministry of Transport kuti upiwe permit and for under USD7000.00 wakutokwenya kombi mutaundi inokupa at least USD80.00 or USD100.00 a day, which is more than what we earn in Government. Hakuna economy yakagrower isina kugrower its SMEs. Therefore, we have put money there.

The other thing this Budget is concentrating on is the poor. We put over a billion dollars to education. Pandiri pano mukaona pandakakurira kumataundishipi uko, I was raised in a two-roomed house, not two bed-roomed. Kungoti tanga tiri vana vadiki, but dai taive takura I think taitorara musango because hauzorare mumba mune vabereki, but chakatibatsira chikoro. So, as a Government we need to put money into education. There are three things that we have focused on; the construction of two new schools per province. When we did our outreach programme, people were telling us kuti kumaresettlement hakuna zvikoro, vana varikudzidza mumabarns and the barns are faulty. We listened to people and put money for schools. There is also the rehabilitation of schools. Kune zvimwe zvikoro, kune chimwe chinonzi Fafi chirikuZhombe, masikati chinopinda vana vechikoro, manheru chopinda mombe. Kune triple hot-seating, even muBulawayo chaimo, you know that, munozviziva, there is triple hot-seating. Vana vanopinda na 8, vobuda na 11, vanopinda na11 vobuda na 2, vanopinda na2 vobuda na 5, that is triple hot-seating. Tiri kushaisha, therefore, we have put money into that as well.

The other thing we have put money for magrants. We have put money so that the schools are given money because the headmaster is the best judge kuti iyi classroom irikuda kupendwa, blackboard irikuda kupendwa, apo ndofanira kutenga matable evana. We have put money for that. Just to give you the figures, Teaching and learning materials, machoko namachii, USD13.6million, Students support USD15.3million, Support to Tertiary institutions USD11.3million, School supervision, iyi yakakosha iyi, USD2.3million, maEducation Officers.Patakafunda isusu Education Officer aityisa, ikozvino havako, kana ukamuona unomuona akadhakwa pagrowth point achiti ndashaya motokari. The most important thing that we have done is rehabilitation of secondary and primary schools, SD17.2million. That is a lot of money, it costs from between USD60000.00 to USD100 000.00 to build a school, you can see that USD17million is a lot of money. To upgrade a school, some schools require USD5000.00 yekungoita repaint, some need USD4000.00. I was talking to Senator David Coltart who was saying that Milton High just need USD2000.00 because matoilets acho akabloka. Therefore we have given money towards that. MagrantsUSD95million.

We have also given money to Health. KuHealth uku, we want maProvince ese asina maDistrict Hospitals to have District hospitals. Zvinondirwadza, taiudzwa nevanhu kuti kune mamwe madistricts anotove nemadistrict hospitals matatu matatu and then you go to other districts where there are no district hospital. Mukaenda paBlue Book papage 191 you will see the hospitals that we are going to look at, Chinhoyi Provincial, Banket District, Rusape General, Chiredzi General, Beitbridge District, Binga District, Victoria Falls, Shurugwi, Mvuma District, Nkayi District, Kwekwe District, Chegutu, Makumbe, Chipinge, Mutoko District, Concession District, Filabusi District, Mwenezi District, Mount Darwin and Nyamadhlovu. Then on mission hospitals, tine Kana, St. Michaels,Nyadire, Regina Choeli, Mtshabezi, Matibi, Karanda and Mount Mellery, zvizhinji zvacho handitombozivi kuti zviri kupi. What we are trying to do in this budget is that, if we say tirikuita chinhu, we must do zvataita kuprovince iyi ndizvo zvatichaita kuprovince iyo. That is why zvikoro zvatiri kuita matwins matwins. Ndinoda kutaura nyaya yemaroadsIn every province we have picked two roads, for instance in Manicaland, we have picked my favourite road, Bhinya road , zvayakangosiiwawo naMbuya Nehanda naVaKaguvi, Mbuya Nehanda vaipfeka mukofoka, saka payakangosiiwawo nemukofoka waMbuya Nehanda, naVaKaguvi ndipo pairi. Therefore, we gave money for that. We have also given money for Murambinda -Birchenough. For Midlands, we have given money, I think for one of the Gokwe roads and Nkayi. For Mashonaland West, we have given money for Gokwe Empress yekuti iyezvinezvi it is saferkuti utoenda mudust road, ukaenda mutara hameno zvako. Ndakambokuenda ndikaita two matyre puncture, sakaiyezvino ndinotofamba mudust road . We have given money for these roads. We have given USD407 015 000.00 for these programmes, Rural Electrification and boreholes. We are so determined; it costs only USD2000.00 to build a borehole, so we have put USD30million for the construction of boreholes throughout the country.

I was telling my team at the Ministry to process these things so that the tender processes are approved by the 31st December 2012. This will enable the money to be disbursed in January, because part of our problem is Government's capacity utilization. You give people money and by September the money is still in banks and this is very disappointing.

We have also given twenty million dollars for civil servants housing. In Parliament, I announced ten million which is coming from CBZ, I did not want to say it is actually twenty million because I did not want this Budget to be described as populist. This money will go to first time home owners in the civil service. So, what I have asked the Ministry of Local Government and Ministry of Housing is for them to go to every district and get land so that we identify the places. Every district in Zimbabwe is crying for civil servants' accommodation. I was in Nkayi the other day and there are just a few small houses by Nkayi business centre. The same thing applies to Murewa and Murambinda. Civil servants have no accommodation. The advantage of building houses now is that you are also creating an economy because you are going to buy cement, bricks, pit sand and roofing material. You are also going to employ people. Therefore twenty million in reality is a three hundred million dollar injection because you are creating an economy. It is actually better than giving money for someone to buy a house of which the money goes to a white person who will take the money to South Africa.

However, the programme that I really want to see effected is the programme of rural electrification. I went deep down to Rasa in Gutu and after turning at Mushayavanhu you travel 40kms until you get to Dewende. I saw two houses one with electricity and the other one without and the difference was shocking. It is very important that we have rural electrification because it makes it easy for children to read and pass their exams. So, if there is one thing that this budget is determined to do, it is the programme of rural electrification and drilling boreholes because water and electricity change people's lives. So, I hope that the civil servants will be able to move but we, as policy makers, have put money over an important issue.

I mentioned that the budget has three parts: The first thing was agriculture and food security, the second thing was job creation and industrialisation. The third thing was the poor, education, roads, health etc. The last thing that we did on this budget was the issue of supporting our peace process; which is the referendum, the Constitution, elections and the various commissions that we set up such as the Anti-corruption commission, Human Rights Commission, Gender Commission, ZEC etc. There is no point in setting up these commissions and not fund them.

So, hon. senators, that is your budget that came from the people because we listen to people. This budget is for every Zimbabwean and every Zimbabwean should say there is my contribution towards the budget. I saw Senator Chimbetete who represents Nyatate where you find Binya road. Among the contributions made, there are schools, hospitals and then the overall thing; macro economic stability and growth which benefits everyone. Boreholes are important because water is life. It pains me to know that 32 years after independence, 48% of the population of Zimbabwe still does not have built toilets but still use the bush system. What if you are bitten by a black mamba in the forest, what will people say? I also know that 48% of Zimbabwe has no access to protected water and people still go and fetch water from unprotected sources. This budget has tried to address these issues.

Let me conclude by saying, the difference between successful countries and failed countries is one thing and one thing alone. Were you peaceful and did you have a common vision? All countries have politics. There is no country that has no politics, some are even more than those that happen in Zimbabwe. You saw what was happening in USA between Obama and Romney during debates. You would think they were going to engage in fist fights but the election came on the 6 th of November and people in USA have already forgotten that elections took place.

That also is our wish as Ministry of Finance that we have a peaceful election and after elections people get on with the business of making a difference to the people of Zimbabwe. I thank you. I move that the Bill be now read a second time.

Motion put and agreed to.

Bill read a second time.

Committee Stage: Thursday, 29th November, 2012.



SENATOR MARAVA: I move the motion standing in my name that the Committee in Human Rights is:

CONCERNED THAT the death penalty is inhuman and a violation of human rights.

COGNISANT that one hundred and fifty-one out of one hundred and ninety three United Nations member states have abolished this practice including the United Nations Security Council which has rejected death sentence options by the International Tribunal for those convicted of heinous crimes against humanity in former Yugoslavia and Rwanda and genocide committed all over the world;

CONSIDERING that the reduction in executions in many countries and the abolition of the death penalty in some African countries' penal systems and that the UN General Assembly adopted a resolution that called upon all states with death penalties to regulate towards its elimination a way of promoting fundamental rights;

DISTURBED that Zimbabwe voted against all the Resolutions on the death penalty and that there are about sixty prisoners on the death row;


That the death penalty was introduced during the colonial era and is one of the legacies of colonialism which needs to be completely eradicated;


1. WELCOMES the steps taken to restrict the use of death penalty on persons as sentence.

2. CALLS UPON the Government to:

(a) Accede to the Second Optional Protocol to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights;

(b) Establish a de jure moratorium on the application of the death penalty aimed at its definition abolition;

(c) Reverse the negative vote shown in the past on the new resolution calling for a moratorium of the death penalty set for December this year at the 67 th United Nations General Assembly and to vote in favour.


SENATOR MARAVA: An increasingly large number of countries from all regions of the world have acknowledged that the death penalty undermined human dignity, and that its abolition, or at least moratorium of its use contribute to the enjoyment of human rights;

According to the Non-Governmental Organisation "Hands off Cain", which delegation was heard by the Human Rights Thematic Committee on August 21 last, currently of the 193 member state of the United Nations have abolished the death penalty or introduced a moratorium/either or in practice;

In particular 97 UN member state are totally abolitionist; 7 are abolitionist for ordinary crimes; 5 have a moratorium or executions in place and 43 are de-facto abolitionist (i.e. countries that have not carried out any executions for at least 10 years or countries which binding obligations not to use the death penalty);

Countries retaining the death penalty world-wide have gradually declined over the last twenty years; currently there are 43 retaintionist states, compared to 97 in 1993;

Since the early 1990's, the death penalty has increasingly been recognised to be a human rights issue falling within the international legal framework and, more and more, being excluded from it. In fact, the UN Security Council unanimously decided not to include the death penalty among the sentencing options for the international Tribunal established to judge crimes committed in the former Yugoslavia and Rwanda; the UN Plenipotentiary Conference held in Rome in July 1998 approved the Statute of the International Criminal court, which omitted the death penalty even for war crimes against humanity and genocide committed all over the world;

Considering that in recent years, there has been a general decrease if executions in many countries, as well as a reduction of capital crimes or the commutation of death sentences; in 2011 for instance, executions were carried out in 19 countries (compared to 22 in 2010) for a total of at least 5 000 executions (compared to at least 5 946 in 2010).

"Hands Off Cain" statistics on the application of the death penalty on the continent shows that there are currently 40 African state that have decided to renounce the death penalty. Of these: 16 have abolished the death penalty in their penal system; 22 have de-facto abolished it by not carrying out execution in the past ten or more years; 2 have a moratorium on execution in place. The retentionist states are 13. In 2011 the death penalty was carried out only in 4 countries - Somalia, Sudan, South Sudan and Egypt- where there were at least 24 executions; compared to at least 43 in 2010 on the entire continent.

On December 18, 2007, The United Nation General Assembly adopted a resolution for a moratorium on the use of the death penalty, in which the General Assembly calls upon all states that still maintain the death penalty "to establish a moratorium on executions with a view to abolishing the death penalty" The votes in favour were 104, 54 against and 29 abstention (with 5 absent at the time of the vote)

Noting that in adopting that resolution, the United Nations established, for the first time, that the question of death penalty is to be considered an individual rights and not an issue related to domestic justice and that its elimination represents fundamental progress for human rights in general;

On December 18, 2008, the United Nation General Assembly approved the resolution for the moratorium on the death penalty for the second consecutive year, with 105 in favour, 47 against and 34 abstentions (6 were absent at the time of the vote);

Whereas in Zimbabwe official records show that 78 people have been executed since the nation won independence from Britain in 1980. Currently there are plus or minus 60 prisoners on death row. No capital execution has been carried out since 2003, pointing the country to a de-facto moratorium of the death penalty.

The death penalty is provided by the current Constitution, and its substantial abolition is under consideration as part of the process of writing a new Constitution.

Madam President, mindful that any miscarriage or failure of justice in the implementation of the death penalty is irreversible and irreparable and considering that there is no conclusive evidence of the deterrent value of the death penalty.

Madam President, noting that the death penalty, entirely absent in the African tradition, was introduced during colonial era and today is one of the last legacies of the era of which the continent should finally be rid of, bringing an end to the aberrant and contradictory principle according to which life should be defended by inflicting death;

This House welcomes (1) the steps taken by the Select Committee of Parliament on the new Constitution (COPAC) to dramatically restrict the use of the death penalty, permitting it to be imposed only on a person convicted of mutiny, treason and aggravated murder, and abolishing it for women and those under the age of 21 and above 70 years.

(2) Calls on the Government to:

a) acede to the Second Optional Protocol to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights;

b) establish a de jure moratorium on the application of the death penalty aimed at its definitive abolition.

c) Reverse the negative vote expressed in the past on the new resolution calling for a moratorium of the death penalty set for December this year at the 67 th United Nations General Assembly and vote in favour. Madam President, I want to thank you.

SENATOR MANDAVA: I would like to contribute to this debate that has been introduced by Senator Marava and seconded by Senator Hlalo. We all know that after the GNU, there was this thing that we had a people driven Constitution. I have heard that it is because the death penalty is in our current Constitution. When we went out for outreach, all people said we should retain the death penalty. Today if we go against what the people said just because the United Nations or the human rights have condoned the death penalty, I think it would be unfair to the people of this country because when sanctions were introduced, definitely, we may not have statistics, but we know that people suffered to the point that there must be some people who died either of hunger or of that which could also be genocide. The United Nations never said stop the sanctions in Zimbabwe because it is affecting everyone. We talk about human rights; yes we all want human rights but where were the human rights activists when the sanctions made every Zimbabwean suffer? We are still suffering, factories are closed, industry stopped production, people lost jobs, we could not produce because of drought, there was no sympathy even from the human rights activists. If the people want the death penalty to be retained in our Constitution, let it be. I do not think the courts will unjustly send everybody to be executed; they look at the gravity of the offence. The death penalty has always been in the African culture. It was even injustice because children were being slaughtered because amera mazino kumusoro, but it was unfair. So we always have death penalty as punishment.

Madam President, to deter people - if we retain the death penalty, surely some people will stop killing each other especially now that people are being killed for ritualistic purposes and for those people just to be set free would be unfair. I think the judges will look at the gravity of the offence. I feel that the death penalty should be retained in our Constitution, in Zimbabwe irrespective of what is happening in the United States or what is happening at the Human Rights International, you name all the organisations that condone the death penalty. So I am sorry that I am against the fact that the death penalty be abolished. I thank you.

*SENATOR JACOB: I want to thank those who moved the motion in this House. I also want to thank the Committee that went on tours to the prisons and realised that there are six people who are on death penalty. I also realise that they felt pity for those murderers. When we are talking of the death of a person, we are looking at somebody who has murdered his wife, husband or child. You did not give us statistics of the people murdered by these murderers, the Committee did not check how those people who lost their loved ones are suffering. So we do not feel pity for people who do not deserve pity. If someone can murder someone and then…

Last part of speech not recorded due to a technical fault .

SENATOR S. NCUBE: Thank you for affording me this opportunity to add my voice to this motion brought before this august House. I would like to thank Hon. Senator Marava and the seconder of this motion.

Madam President, I have noticed that most of us in Zimbabwe are Christians. How then can we say we want to retain the death sentence yet the Bible says we must not kill and we must not retaliate? I know that when we went out on outreach, people had different opinions. Some were saying an eye for an eye, but I am saying as leaders we should encourage people to forgive each other. Why do we always inherit bad laws which were made for us black people and after all we do not have those people to kill. A lot of people were killed during the Gukurahundi. The murderers are known and are walking scot free, they are seen by the relatives of the deceased people. Why is it that they were not killed? We must not look at who has brought this motion before the House because this might create problems for us as law makers. We should make good laws for the country after all we are all going to die. Who are we to judge others? Each one of us is going to be judged on the judgment day I thank you.

+SENATOR HLALO: (Speechnot recorded due to a technical fault).

SENATOR MANDABA: I move that the debate do now adjourn.


Motion put and agreed to.

Debate to resume: Thursday, 29th November, 2012.

SENATOR MANDABA: I move that the Senate do now adjourn.


On the motion of SENATOR MANDABA, seconded by SENATOR MARAVA, the Senate adjourned at Eleven Minutes to Five o'clock p.m.



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